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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Kevin Jon Heller‏ @kevinjonheller 23 Jun 2014

      This WP article from 2001 mentions Bush formally directing #CIA to target AQ but is silent about the #AUMF. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/18/AR2007111800655.html …

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    2. Robert Caruso‏Verified account @robertcaruso 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @kevinjonheller

      @kevinjonheller Kevin--thoughts on CIAs political, not legal, status? They're wielded so often as a paramilitary arm for a reason, right?

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @robertcaruso

      @robertcaruso Do you have a comment on whether killing an American would be a TMA or paramilitary? Redaction looks former. @kevinjonheller

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    4. Robert Caruso‏Verified account @robertcaruso 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @kevinjonheller on the surface, practically (operationally, and not legally) TMA is expansive. All of Op Copper Dune is overt!

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @robertcaruso

      @robertcaruso One of @Krhawkins5's args was that it couldn't be TMA bc we know this was treated as covert. @kevinjonheller

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    6. Robert Caruso‏Verified account @robertcaruso 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel well @Krhawkins5 is fucking sharp and she's probably right! This admin, even more than GWB, loves them a covert action program.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
      Replying to @robertcaruso

      @robertcaruso Seems like Lederman's args abt DOD covert ops would permit CIA TMAs that were still covert, no? @Krhawkins5

      5:35 PM - 23 Jun 2014
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        2. Robert Caruso‏Verified account @robertcaruso 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @Krhawkins5 I have to be careful about parsing legal arguments bc I have 0 expertise. However. DoD *can* turn 'dial' btwn 10&50.

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        3. Robert Caruso‏Verified account @robertcaruso 23 Jun 2014
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          @emptywheel @Krhawkins5 it's less of a politically expedient button, more of a dial. Lots of 50 and some 10, or vice versa. That's T60!

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @robertcaruso

          @robertcaruso That perhaps does not make for convincing OLC memos. @Krhawkins5

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        5. Robert Caruso‏Verified account @robertcaruso 23 Jun 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @Krhawkins5 in my JS post, I go into T22 authorities as well which are similarly expansive. I want it up by Wed but we'll see.

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