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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Jun 2014

    Techie-lawyer people: does back door prohibition in Massie-Lofgren apply to Lavabit? My guess is no bc that was FBI, not CIA, NSA.

    8:43 AM - 20 Jun 2014
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      2. Matt Stoller‏Verified account @matthewstoller 20 Jun 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel No that would have to be on Cjs approps.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Jun 2014
        Replying to @matthewstoller

        @matthewstoller Note language on back door searches applies to ANY employee of Fed govt. FBI also has back door searches.

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      2. Marcia Hofmann‏Verified account @marciahofmann 20 Jun 2014
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel You're correct. The Lavabit case didn't involve FISA, the CIA, or NSA.

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      3. Dissent Doe, PhD‏ @PogoWasRight 20 Jun 2014
        Replying to @marciahofmann

        @marciahofmann @emptywheel Too many exceptions, loopholes, end-runs available, it seems.

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      4. Marcia Hofmann‏Verified account @marciahofmann 20 Jun 2014
        Replying to @PogoWasRight

        @PogoWasRight @emptywheel Thrilled to see it pass, though. Good sign.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Jun 2014
        Replying to @marciahofmann

        @marciahofmann Not complaining at all! Thrilled to. Just curious how broadly it'll apply. @PogoWasRight

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      1. it's                                  0xdeadbⓐbe 💮‏ @0xdeadbabe 21 Jun 2014
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        @emptywheel IANAL, but Lavabit's case wasn't about "backdoors" per se: they wanted the front door keys.

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