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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
      Replying to @normative

      @normative And you are asking to dismiss both the plain language in bill AND known use of jargon to interpret different meaning.

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    2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Would you be more comfortable if it said "basis for identifying" rather than "basis for selecting"?

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
      Replying to @normative

      @normative No! "Basis for" is always interpretation. I'd be happy if it said "selector" used as such, which is how you're reinterpreted it.

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    4. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel The results of the first production are a series of phone numbers used as the "basis for" round two

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
      Replying to @normative

      @normative One reason it prolly says that is bc of the way it correlates across identifiers. Phone number > All smart phone activities > etc

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    6. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel There's also, at this point, a legislative track record that should make it hard for the FISC to twist it that way.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
      Replying to @normative

      @normative Also, legislative record only matters when a defendant gets review. DOJ refuses to do that for 215.

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    8. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel FISC did (tendentiously) look at the legislative record in its written opinions.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
      Replying to @normative

      @normative Tendentiously is a polite term for what they did, and only when it became public.

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    10. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Because the "selection term" is effectively just the target, so they can submit the same old application again.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
      Replying to @normative

      @normative Yes. I believe they can. Nothing I've seen makes me believe this requires a change. Nothing.

      7:09 PM - 7 May 2014
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        1. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel you don't think at this point legislators would cry bloody murder if FISC handed down an opinion saying...

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        2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel "all this new restrictive language requiring specific selection terms has no practical effect"?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
          Replying to @normative

          @normative Like Ron Wyden took 7 years doing?

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        4. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel We're in a pretty different place politically.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
          Replying to @normative

          @normative We are? This Congress is IMO less effective on these issues than Congress was in 2008.

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        2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel God knows I don't put much stock in "vigorous oversight by all three branches" but if we're THAT completely fucked...

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2014
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          @normative I'm not saying we're completely fucked. I'm saying Congress has ability to do far better than they did today. They chose not to.

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        1. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 7 May 2014
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          @emptywheel Then you sort of just have to give up on legislation as a meaningful vehicle for reform.

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