@bmaz @BradMossEsq @Thomas_Drake1 How about any lawyers facilitating unlawful leaks?
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@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz I'm all for asking questions and pushing issue just not willing to assume unlawfulness -
@MarkSZaidEsq Also, if govt unwilling to provide FISC info requested (as w/Bates on upstream) how measure?@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz -
@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz Ultimately FISC got all it wanted as far as I know -
@MarkSZaidEsq False. Bates asked for # of USP SCTs, didn't get it. Reason to believe it's significant.@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz -
@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz If the FISC wants info it will get it I'm sure. Judges won't just sit back and do nothing -
@MarkSZaidEsq Well, 2011 decision made w/o info Bates specifically requested.@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz -
@emptywheel@MarkSZaidEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz That was then. This is now -
@BradMossEsq Actually, no. BC govt officials recently actively misled oversight body on it.@MarkSZaidEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz - 2 more replies
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@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz And I don't pretend to have all the answers. It's not my program or policy to defend. -
@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz Our discussion was about how to deal with natsec WBs with info, not defend USG programs -
@MarkSZaidEsq Just pointing out neither FISC nor defense courts may expose any hypothetical illegality@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz -
@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz Our court system has never been designed to address hypotheticals regardless of issue -
@MarkSZaidEsq@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1 They are only "hypothetical" because of govts malicious concealment from Cong+citizens -
@bmaz@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1 This is the system we have for 200+ years. I'm all for change to better and strengthen it -
@MarkSZaidEsq But it is precisely NOT the system we've had for 200 yrs.@bmaz@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1 -
@KanysLupin@bmaz@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1 Correct. Past abuses were worse. - 16 more replies
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@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz Both 215 and 702 now subject to ongoing court proceedings, as well as hostile cong attn -
@MarkSZaidEsq Govt is refusing 215 notice to defendants w/known standing. & Destroying evidence on it.@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz -
@emptywheel@BradMossEsq@Thomas_Drake1@bmaz Several court cases underway, Judges have authority to deal w/destroyed evidence
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