Curious: Who are the people who've discerned all the Russian spies (!) who are (newly!) in Ukraine? They wouldn't be ... spies, would they?
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@emptywheel Can you please cite the cases where US spies are destabilizing nations as a pretext for US invasion & annexation?@bungdan -
@revmagdalen You might start w/Iraq, Libya, and Syria.@bungdan -
@emptywheel Iraq, Libya & Syria are examples of US spy-caused destabilizations meant as pretexts to annex territory? o_0@bungdan -
@revmagdalen Well, we don't annex territory. We run our empire slightly differently. Does that make it ok?@bungdan -
@emptywheel If the territory US soldiers leave has free elections, even of people who hate us, that's not actually an empire.@bungdan -
@revmagdalen You are familiar w/many questions abt fairness of Iraqi elections, I hope?@bungdan -
@emptywheel Were they called for without a quorum and administered by masked, armed men, like in Crimea?@bungdan -
@revmagdalen "Masked armed men." Hmmm. Even your now retreat to cherrypicking isn't very astute.@bungdan - 4 more replies
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@emptywheel Russian irredentism in Ukraine is kind of a big deal, as is potential broader war in Europe. But I'll leave it there. -
@bungdan There are many things that are a big deal. That is one of them. I'll leave it there.
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@emptywheel@bungdan Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd once again it's all about us. What this means for Ukrainians doesn't bear commenting on. -
@BillBindc Sorry. No. It's about how idiotic breaking "news" stories are that report our spies are finding spies.@bungdan
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@emptywheel Does it matter *why* any military act (overt or covert) is done, or would all hypothetical destabilizations be equal?@bungdan -
@revmagdalen How do we get to those "why"s? Why did US overthrow Saddam?@bungdan -
@emptywheel@revmagdalen Why did we? A Jacobin period of madness when dreamers of the day ran free without adult supervision. - 1 more reply
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