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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Thomas Drake‏ @Thomas_Drake1 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      .@BradMossEsq @declanm what about FISC overruling Constitution? I discovered shortly after 9/11 WH/NSA bypassed FISA unchained frm 4th Amend

      1 reply 3 retweets 2 likes
    2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @Thomas_Drake1

      @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm The original program, right? That's the White House, not FISA

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Thomas Drake‏ @Thomas_Drake1 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      .@BradMossEsq @declanm If shortly after 9/11, the WH approves a program that enables NSA to bypass FISA & says it's legal is that criminal?

      3 replies 6 retweets 5 likes
    4. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @Thomas_Drake1

      @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm Criminal? Not likely. Ultimately illegal?? Quite possibly. Criminal question tricky, esp given no ex post facto

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Thomas Drake‏ @Thomas_Drake1 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      .@BradMossEsq @declanm FISA vios carried crim sanctions: 10 yrs prison, $5K fine each instance given 4th Amend vios prior to FISA by NSA/FBI

      1 reply 4 retweets 1 like
    6. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @Thomas_Drake1

      @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm You'd have to prove no reasonable interpretation of law that permitted circumvention of FISC. And no DOJ approval

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq You're being nuts. Al Haramain had Admin dead to rights for wiretapping on days following Mar 11, 2004 @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm The district court ruling wasn't until 2010 and that alone doesn't make the acts criminal

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq WTF District Court ruling are you talking about? Judge granted review on 1/5/09. @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm

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    10. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/us/01nsa.html …

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Mar 2014
      Replying to @BradMossEsq

      @BradMossEsq Since you're being so damn smart, care to tell what BushCo lied abt in 2006 got corrected in 2/09? @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm

      6:38 PM - 18 Mar 2014
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        2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq 18 Mar 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm Marcy, what did I do to suggest I am being overly "smart" here? I'm clarifying Fed liability nuances

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Mar 2014
          Replying to @BradMossEsq

          @BradMossEsq And ALSO ignoring the known history of BOTH torture and illegal wiretapping. @Thomas_Drake1 @declanm

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        4. Thomas Drake‏ @Thomas_Drake1 18 Mar 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          .@bradmossesq @emptywheel @declanm Only 2 ppl prosecuted& indicted for surveillance & torture: me& @JohnKiriakou Gov't approval makes legal?

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