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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Swopa‏ @Swopa 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @henryfarrell I have no clue what the NSA did. My argument is NYT story doesn't know either, so it's basically a Rorschach test.

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    2. Swopa‏ @Swopa 16 Feb 2014
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      @emptywheel @henryfarrell Hence, circular reasoning: If you believe NSA collects everything, you believe they did in this case. If not... ??

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Swopa

      @Swopa "if you believe they collect everything" Is that ideology you're accusing me of? I believe they fully exploit targets. @henryfarrell

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Swopa‏ @Swopa 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @henryfarrell Should I ask what the difference is, or wait until I can afford an electron microscope first? :)

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Swopa

      @Swopa In other words, we're talking abt an entity that US and Aus has very specific interest in collecting very broadly on @henryfarrell

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    6. Swopa‏ @Swopa 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @henryfarrell And the reason this differs from "NSA collects everything" (in a 140-character context) is... ??

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Swopa

      @Swopa Targets are what the "collect everything" metadata serves to pinpoint, to then get comprehensive collections on. @henryfarrell

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    8. Swopa‏ @Swopa 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel So? (You're sliding into minutiae without explaining what it means in terms of the NYT article.)

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Swopa

      @Swopa What it means is that Indonesian govt was CLEARLY a target from which NSA/5Eyes would be expected to collect everything they can get

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    10. Swopa‏ @Swopa 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Swopa Retweeted emptywheel

      @emptywheel Um, "collect everything" seems to be phrase you were objecting to here: https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/435218746701905920 … Are you now agreeing with me?!

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      emptywheel @emptywheel
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      @Swopa "if you believe they collect everything" Is that ideology you're accusing me of? I believe they fully exploit targets. @henryfarrell
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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Swopa

      @Swopa No. Not at all. Have you been paying attention to these disclosures at all?

      6:05 PM - 16 Feb 2014
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