@Swopa @emptywheel point is that the NSA isn’t breaking the rules if it uses intelligence on these conversations. It is working within them.
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@henryfarrell@emptywheel This is all the same circular reasoning. I fully agree the NSA might rationalize using the intel, but you still...1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@henryfarrell@emptywheel ... don't know for a fact that they DID. Assuming it may be ideologically satisfying, but not good journalism.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Swopa Put it this way: Hayden always says agency goes RIGHT to edge of rules. Tapping those lawyers easily w/in rules@henryfarrell1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@henryfarrell You're repeating yourself. I get the "rules" argument, but for the front page(?) of the NYT, there should be a...1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@emptywheel@henryfarrell ... smoking gun in THIS instance. What was conveyed? How'd it matter to trade case? W/o that, story is nothing.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@Swopa You're only bugged by spying on lawyers if you can prove we got advantage? And NOT bugged by spying on US based ones?@henryfarrell1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@henryfarrell What I'm "bugged by" doesn't matter. I like my news stories to prove what they say. I had the same "where's the...1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@emptywheel@henryfarrell ... beef" reaction to this as I did to the NYT's 1st Whitewater story in 1992, or Judy Miller's MWD stories in...2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@emptywheel@henryfarrell ... 2002-03. Innuendo isn't proof. Even when the innuendo is coming from the side I agree with.3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@Swopa In any case. It is a proven fact that 1) NSA spies on lawyers and 2) their own rules allow it in most cases. @henryfarrell
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