@Swopa @emptywheel be making jeering remarks about circular reasoning. There’s a gun, a clear motive, a legal rationale for using the gun...
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Replying to @henryfarrell
@Swopa@emptywheel and a bunch of “highly satisfied” NSA customers. Doubtless, there are possible states of the world in which NSA was ...1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @henryfarrell
@Swopa@emptywheel too dainty and gentlemanly to take advantage. But they are not, obviously, very likely states of the world.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @henryfarrell
@henryfarrell@emptywheel This is more or less the same reasoning anti-Snowden ideologues use to say he gave secret docs to Russia/China...1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Swopa
@Swopa It is? All it involves is what the guidance would be. We know what it would be.@henryfarrell1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@henryfarrell You "know" it enough to say it's a possibility (even a strong one), but to assume it as fact is circular reasoning2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Swopa
@emptywheel@henryfarrell Similarly, the Russians/Chinese govts. aren't sweethearts, but wrong to assume as fact Snowden has given docs4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @Swopa
@Swopa I ALSO, btw, have zero doubt Rus/China have paid others to get similar docs for them, bc security at NSA so piss poor.@henryfarrell1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@Swopa to amplify@emptywheel, anti-Snowdenistas explicitly assume malign motivation - that he is a “traitor” out to hurt the US.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @henryfarrell
@henryfarrell@emptywheel Yes, just like you assume NSA's malign willingness to flout legal/ethical guidelines whenever they have a chance1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@Swopa Whether malign or not I assume they follow the rules they have laid out, which says spying on lawyers is okay. @henryfarrell
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