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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Again, you seem to believe US should adopt harsher tactics w/TCOs that announce their intention rather than use better OpSec

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    2. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Because I do not believe that we are discussing the same war that doesn't just target banks as "financial infrastructure"

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Your theory of war basically leaves the country at the mercy of more dangerous TCO. It seems unwise.

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    4. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel The United States once allied with Organized Crime to defeat the Nazis & w/ Soviet Russia. Risk to benefit ratio. State craft

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Yes. But the logic of your approach to networks would dictate that we go after the banks more aggressively than AQ.

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    6. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel No, because you insist on ignoring the one, very significant difference: One is violent & will seek to kill, the other wants $

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Hmm. Seems a foolish distinction to me. They'll both do anything to accrue power. The banks are just more effective.

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    8. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel So, when you say that they are more dangerous, without assessing the real threat of an economic collapse, that is a problem

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri So it seems clear to me you haven't assessed the threat.

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    10. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel What I understand is logistics. I understand JIT delivery systems that can be interrupted by local & regional actors.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri SPECIFIC reason given for bailing out banks was to prevent financial collapse, brought by crimes, from interrupting market.

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        2. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel That is true. But there is a reason we bailed out GM as well. It's called "Vital American Interest". Meaning of necessity

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri Yup (though we screwed up w/both GM and battery investments and will lose some other countries).

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        2. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel of necessity to the defense of the nation in toto. W/o means of production or viable banking system, we collapse.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri yes yes yes! We agree we need a viable banking system. That NatSec people believe we have one is VERY alarming.

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        4. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel It is the one that we have. You expect some supreme overhaul in the midst of economic & physical warfare?

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        1. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel And I'm quite certain that Russia and China will refuse as well.

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        1. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel And these banks are being forced to pay it back w/interest. You will not be able to get AQ to pay us for damages w/interest

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