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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Yes. And intelligence documents internally are utterly inconsistent on that point.

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    2. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel It does tend to muck up the lines. But this is why this is low grade war & not a criminal case.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri You mean we should only attempt to prosecute banks using a low grade war? They invented that kind of network.

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    4. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel That is equating a white collar crime w/ actual violent activity. And, as far as I know, no bank has issued declaration of war

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri No. They were smart in simply attacking without declaring war. I'll grant you that.

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    6. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel To be accepted. But, it does not mean we are not allowed to respond in the proper manner.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Just as we have not responded to the networked, partly clandestine attackers called "banks" properly.

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    8. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Again, this is apples and oranges. an internal, possibly bad actor, against a known external bad actor.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Sorry: which is internal and which external? Cause if AQ isn't internal we can shut down entire dragnet.

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    10. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel All external enemies have always sought to reach inside the borders of another nation to do it damage. Clausewitz.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Incidentally did you notice Clapper did not mention financial warfare in UNCLASS Global Threats hearing like he did last year?

      11:46 AM - 10 Feb 2014
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        2. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel And....???

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri You seem to be suggesting there's no such thing as financial warfare.

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        4. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Oh, I believe there is. Especially when terror organizations announce their strategy as "a 1000 cuts", aim for financial

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri Again, you seem to believe US should adopt harsher tactics w/TCOs that announce their intention rather than use better OpSec

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        6. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Because I do not believe that we are discussing the same war that doesn't just target banks as "financial infrastructure"

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri Oh my. I see you ARE missing my point. The banks are a bigger threat, esp now, than al Qaeda. Why don't we treat them as such?

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        8. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel So, in the middle of an ongoing war w/ AQ, that wishes to destroy us financially, w/ Russia & China, etc regularly attacking

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