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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014

      This is the US version of law & order we're trying to teach the Libyans I guess. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/video-shows-us-abduction-of-accused-al-qaeda-terrorist-on-trial-for-embassy-bombings/2014/02/10/7f84927a-8f6b-11e3-b46a-5a3d0d2130da_story.html …

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    2. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel As a lawyer, I'm sure you are aware that the current AUMF designates AQ & AQ related terrorists as lawful to detain/kill

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Artlcle ALSO describes him as LIFG member--just like many of the fighters we helped overthrow Qaddafi.

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    4. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel LIFG, if you are aware, is also the origination of AQIM. Also does not preclude being both. If you understand AQ network

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Sure. But using your "related" logic, by conspiring w/LIFG US military are legit targets now.

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    6. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Ah, but since we are splitting hairs, not everybody in LIFG is also part of AQ network, even if originating arm. Details

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
      Replying to @Kat_Missouri

      @Kat_Missouri Yes. And intelligence documents internally are utterly inconsistent on that point.

      11:13 AM - 10 Feb 2014
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        2. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel It does tend to muck up the lines. But this is why this is low grade war & not a criminal case.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri You mean we should only attempt to prosecute banks using a low grade war? They invented that kind of network.

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        4. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel That is equating a white collar crime w/ actual violent activity. And, as far as I know, no bank has issued declaration of war

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri No. They were smart in simply attacking without declaring war. I'll grant you that.

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        6. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel To be accepted. But, it does not mean we are not allowed to respond in the proper manner.

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri Just as we have not responded to the networked, partly clandestine attackers called "banks" properly.

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        8. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Again, this is apples and oranges. an internal, possibly bad actor, against a known external bad actor.

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        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri Sorry: which is internal and which external? Cause if AQ isn't internal we can shut down entire dragnet.

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        1. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Networked organizations that have groups & individuals coming & going, doing work at one moment for AQ, then for another

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        1. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 10 Feb 2014
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel That is the problem w/ going after a clandestine organization. Not everything will be black & white or single lane

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