@edwardm26 @emptywheel And besides that, the only interest of Snowden and Greenwald is to do as much harm to NSA as possible, nothing else
@electrospaces Even assuming that's correct, you're claiming NSA is not doing same? That's farcical. @edwardm26
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@emptywheel @edwardm26 The problem I have is that Snowden and Greenwald are telling stories that are highly exaggerated and misleading -
@electrospaces You seem to be blissfully unaware of scale of fully-cognizant and sensational NSA lying post-Snowden. @edwardm26 -
@emptywheel @edwardm26 what also bothers me is that Greenwald doesn't want to explain the origins of certain docs, like the Merkel record -
@electrospaces This is like the "why doesn't Greenwald expose what NSA knows abt China's hacks complaint" right? @edwardm26 -
@emptywheel @edwardm26 No, its about giving people (and independent experts) the opportunity to make a judgement for themselves -
@electrospaces I get that (and appreciate your work on it). I just think it ALSO is exposing intelligence NSA doesn't want out. @edwardm26 -
@emptywheel @edwardm26 Maybe, maybe not, but that leaves a hole where we solely have to trust Greenwald in what he's saying -
@electrospaces Yes. I get that. Tho I'm so old I remember when journos never gave original docs at all. @edwardm26 - 2 more replies
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@emptywheel @edwardm26 Well, NSA is doing hardly more than denying what Snowden and Greenwald are claiming -
@electrospaces@emptywheel @edwardm26 NSA repeatedly claimed Russia has all docs, even though Snowden denied taking any docs to Russia. -
@Kittfornow@emptywheel @edwardm26 Hm I can't remember that that was in an official NSA statement... -
@electrospaces I have a list of lies--it was ~37 NSa several months ago.@Kittfornow @edwardm26 -
@emptywheel@Kittfornow @edwardm26 When I have time, I will make a list of Snowden/Greenwald lies.... -
@electrospaces Which in any case are not as willful as NSA's because Greenwald is not working from perfect info.@Kittfornow @edwardm26
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