The again, unlike the vaginal probes McDonnell threatened VA's women with, this probe actually serves a societal function. Cough, gov!
@lib_ertarian_ Oh. it is a simple issue. It may be a politicized issue. But it is very very simple.
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@emptywheel so you deny some women's political agency but not others'. Sound familiar? -
@lib_ertarian_ Some women also think govt shoudl be able to read your email to keep us safe. But both clearly violate principles of country. -
@emptywheel and one can call them wrong without denying them agency as you seem to want to. -
@lib_ertarian_ So your advocating for civil liberties denies a much larger percentage of country agency? You had better stop yourself. -
@emptywheel no, but you spoke as though here is this terrible thing McDonnell tried to do to women denies that he had support from some. -
@lib_ertarian_ Bollocks. You have NO problem w/ similar statements abt other intrusions, encourage them even. -
@emptywheel again, I think the RvW status quo is okish, but worry about excursions on both sides via shortsighted legislative sorties.
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@emptywheel it's very complicated: we're deciding when a "thing" becomes a "person" and has rights. Imagine if we drew the line at 1 yr old -
@lib_ertarian_ Nope. In that case, we're deciding that women can be subject to invasive searches to dissuade them from doing lawful things. -
@emptywheel I was speaking to the overall abortion issue, not these specific attempted policies. -
@lib_ertarian_ Well, I'm speaking about very specific attempted policies.
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@emptywheel personally I'd prefer a decadal referendum - say with the census. The issue is so poisonous on all sides.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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