@emptywheel @papicek @nadabakos I actually like that framing better. I think I would go with "Hobbes" and "Rousseau," maybe?
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Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR Like bunnies and wolves better. I think both Hobbes and Rousseau don't apply very well now.@papicek@nadabakos1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos I think Hobbes is *highly* relevant to struggles between VNSAs and the state.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR Which is only one part of threats to the state and therefore best way to deal w/them.@papicek@nadabakos1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos Not sure what you mean by "and therefore best way to deal w/them."2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR So Q is what kind of brutishness is most dangerous? Banks running things, when they are a FAR bigger threat?@papicek@nadabakos1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos This seems somewhat afield, since I have made no claims about relative dangers.3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR Then you are assuming certain things about relative dangers.@papicek@nadabakos2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos You're making assumptions about the "wolves" there. DoD, for one, sees climate change as a huge threat.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR@emptywheel@nadabakos The DOD's attitude on climate change is iffy. After all, they're the ones fighting for oil.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@papicek Even I think that's simplistic. But they aren't combatting CC as an existential threat, nor is anyone in govt @DaveedGR @nadabakos
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