@DaveedGR Call it "bunnies" & "wolves." "Wolves" is normative position which therefore doesn't get treated as extreme @papicek @nadabakos
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Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos I actually like that framing better. I think I would go with "Hobbes" and "Rousseau," maybe?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR Like bunnies and wolves better. I think both Hobbes and Rousseau don't apply very well now.@papicek@nadabakos1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos I think Hobbes is *highly* relevant to struggles between VNSAs and the state.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR Which is only one part of threats to the state and therefore best way to deal w/them.@papicek@nadabakos1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos Not sure what you mean by "and therefore best way to deal w/them."2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR There are threats to 1) the state and 2) people of it. Terrorists are way down on list of both.@papicek@nadabakos1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos Depends on which state. VNSAs are high on the list for Somalia, Iraq, Tunisia, Syria, Libya, Egypt...2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DaveedGR
@DaveedGR Most of them states for which climate change is at least as big a threat. But the US?@papicek@nadabakos2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@DaveedGR@nadabakos I actuallyhave data on that.pic.twitter.com/tFXEY3Nl9D
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@papicek You gotta add deaths bc of bank-stolen houses and climate change deaths. @DaveedGR @nadabakos
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Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@DaveedGR@nadabakos Those, I dont have data on. I wouldifI hadit.0 replies 0 retweets 0 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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