@DaveedGR I raised it bc there's an invisibility of that extreme centrist authoritarian position bc it is favored @papicek @nadabakos
@DaveedGR Like bunnies and wolves better. I think both Hobbes and Rousseau don't apply very well now. @papicek @nadabakos
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@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos I think Hobbes is *highly* relevant to struggles between VNSAs and the state. -
@DaveedGR Which is only one part of threats to the state and therefore best way to deal w/them.@papicek@nadabakos -
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos Not sure what you mean by "and therefore best way to deal w/them." -
@DaveedGR There are threats to 1) the state and 2) people of it. Terrorists are way down on list of both.@papicek@nadabakos -
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos Depends on which state. VNSAs are high on the list for Somalia, Iraq, Tunisia, Syria, Libya, Egypt... -
@DaveedGR Most of them states for which climate change is at least as big a threat. But the US?@papicek@nadabakos -
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos I don't disagree with that point; but, again, it's a bit afield. -
@DaveedGR Not at all. These are facts that make wolf normativity as obviously foolishly extreme as right or left.@papicek@nadabakos
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