@DaveedGR They do? I'm considered "an extreme" (which means I'm on a different pole). Don't conform. @papicek @nadabakos
@DaveedGR I object to that. It's a political party, one including Ted Cruz who's actually authoritarian. @papicek @nadabakos
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@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos Libertarian is also a philosophy. But at any rate, that is a fairer way to frame than authoritarian. -
@DaveedGR Right. One VERY many non-authoritarians don't espouse in the least.@papicek@nadabakos
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@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos Framing people who do not think like you as authoritarian is a tool of delegitimization rather than mapping. -
@DaveedGR Call it "bunnies" & "wolves." "Wolves" is normative position which therefore doesn't get treated as extreme@papicek@nadabakos -
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos I actually like that framing better. I think I would go with "Hobbes" and "Rousseau," maybe? -
@DaveedGR Like bunnies and wolves better. I think both Hobbes and Rousseau don't apply very well now.@papicek@nadabakos -
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos I think Hobbes is *highly* relevant to struggles between VNSAs and the state. -
@DaveedGR Which is only one part of threats to the state and therefore best way to deal w/them.@papicek@nadabakos -
@emptywheel@papicek@nadabakos Not sure what you mean by "and therefore best way to deal w/them." -
@DaveedGR There are threats to 1) the state and 2) people of it. Terrorists are way down on list of both.@papicek@nadabakos - 4 more replies
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