.@20committee is entirely correct: 850,000 people did *not* have access to the information Snowden leaked. http://20committee.com/2013/11/17/the-guardian-really-needs-to-stop-lying/ …
@DaveedGR Yes. But look at sources. I'd have to look but think Guardian may have accurately stated 850K TS more often than not @20committee
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@emptywheel I lack time to go back over how Guardian framed it. The point's made often enough that@20committee's explanation is relevant. -
@DaveedGR Sure. But it's a very basic thing. To prove that Guardian does it@20committee provides 2 links proving sometimes they don't. -
@emptywheel@20committee That's a fair critique of his links, but Guardian *does* make that claim. Here, for example: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa … -
@DaveedGR Actually, says they had access to databases, NOT to docs. Rusbridger DOES say it at least once, but@20committee won't fix post. -
@emptywheel@20committee You're right. It says databases. These say docs: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/defence-and-security-blog/2013/nov/11/gchq-nsa-leaks … &http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/19/gchq-we-monster-we-cant-control … -
@DaveedGR Actually, only the opinion one does, I think, but it's not presented as news. The Rusbridger does tho.@20committee -
@emptywheel@20committee Both do. Blog: "Info which could endanger lives was shared with 850,000 individuals, one of whom was Snowden." -
@DaveedGR That's the basic def of TS information: Grave danger. That's not a reference to the docs, at all.@20committee - 2 more replies
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@emptywheel@20committee As I said, unclear to me without more info what Guardian has said; but clear that 850K did *not* have access.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel@DaveedGR@20committee Reporting false things that subjects and sources said uncritically is bad reporting. -
@Ali_Gharib Right. I see NO ONE complaining when people report Alexander doing same. MUCH more frequently.@DaveedGR@20committee -
@emptywheel 'Lying' in newspapers is most often not a crime. 'Lying to Congress? Always is.@DaveedGR@20committee
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@emptywheel@DaveedGR@20committee If we're going to start calling it 'lying,' I'm cool with that & I got a long list of liars I wanna out.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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