@Dymaxion "Defense" implies a certain kind of antagonism. 2 distinct sides. Wondering if another word would lead to better way of thinking.
@Dymaxion But I think there's a continuum, in same was as continuum bet State services and CIA HUMINT.
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@emptywheel Sure. And companies run CIA-in-Pakistan-style false flag info gathering missions at the same kind of peril. -
@Dymaxion Not different peril?? If caught, antagonist doesn't have explicit power to detain, kill. -
@emptywheel Reputational and relational risk is what matters to both the company & the Company. No one cares about the agents. -
@Dymaxion CIA cares abt reputational risk? DOD sure. But CIA? -
@emptywheel To the US, not to itself. That's how that operation really backfired. -
@Dymaxion US wasn't already operating in realm of coercion, not persuasion? -
@emptywheel It's still a cost, but yes. The equivalent for a company is economic coercion. -
@Dymaxion Agree. Was thinking of IBM's 70s business model. But plenty of examples.
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