@Dymaxion Read your Medium piece--really though-provoking. In you mind, who protects against cyber bad guys?
@Dymaxion "Defense" implies a certain kind of antagonism. 2 distinct sides. Wondering if another word would lead to better way of thinking.
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@emptywheel But it doesn't follow remotely that antagonism in infrastructure *requires* global surveillance; only the modern state does that -
@Dymaxion You don't think corporations don't require "intelligence"? -
@emptywheel Of course they do -- I'd guess they do almost as much intelligence work as states do. Less visible, though. -
@Dymaxion Partly less visible. Partly FAR MORE visible, and consent-driven. -
@emptywheel Corporate intelligence != corporate market information gathering. Extremely distinct. -
@Dymaxion How so? -
@emptywheel They serve different ends and use different resources. Google ad tracking isn't about detecting threats. -
@Dymaxion Ah, but hackers aren't only threat to Google. Amazon, MS, Apple are too. Gather info abt "weapons" to exploit given territory. - 10 more replies
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@emptywheel Reliability is a more useful frame in some ways, but there is also a line where you need to understand it's adversarial. -
@Dymaxion Why, though? Because some authority has to decide stealing IP is wrong but stealing convos right? -
@emptywheel No, just looking at infrastructure only. If someone is trying to attack your power grid, it's not a pure reliability issue. -
@Dymaxion OK, but by "your" there--whose power grid is it? -
@emptywheel That depends on how you structure geographic infrastructure. Right now, it's the state's.
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