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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Andrew A. Rosen‏ @aagave 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @QuiteColdNight @AllThingsHLS @iwelsh I read it. and it reads like a linear prediction for the US.

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @aagave

      @aagave I don't think prediction necessary. But unless we change our behaviors, it will be. @iwelsh

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Andrew A. Rosen‏ @aagave 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel and that's why I said US is too dynamic for those predictions. Fracking, mentioned in @iwelsh, is unforeseen product of dynamism

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @aagave

      @aagave Unforeseen? The Shah forsaw it before he was overthrown. @iwelsh

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    5. Andrew A. Rosen‏ @aagave 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @iwelsh fracking revolution in US was not foreseen...

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @aagave

      @aagave Fracking in US was not publicly discussed. That's different than not being discussed secretly as early as mid-1970s. @iwelsh

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    7. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @aagave Specific tech is irrelevant, everyone who paid attention knew there were VAST hydrocarbon reserves

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    8. Andrew A. Rosen‏ @aagave 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @iwelsh

      @iwelsh @emptywheel my point remains that this fracking *revolution* due to tech innovations was not foreseen

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @aagave

      @aagave And your point is historically inaccurate. As I said, convos abt price point for fracking were central to relations w/Shah. @iwelsh

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Aug 2013
      Replying to @petercowan

      @petercowan Here's a good one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1439155186  @aagave @iwelsh

      10:15 AM - 9 Aug 2013
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        2. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 9 Aug 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @petercowan @aagave I suspect the real point is going to be water...

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Aug 2013
          Replying to @iwelsh

          @iwelsh And the Saudis acknowledged that too--they had hoped we'd hold off on fracking bc of groundwater concerns. @petercowan @aagave

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        4. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 9 Aug 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @petercowan @aagave Convo I had w/someone in the know was that their analysts don't think the fracking play will work

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Aug 2013
          Replying to @iwelsh

          @iwelsh On water basis? Or we won't be able to sustain the pace long enough to break the ME stranglehold? @petercowan @aagave

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        6. Ian Welsh‏ @iwelsh 9 Aug 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @petercowan @aagave Didn't get the details. Water and politics, I think. The pollution creates local wastelands.

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        7. Sean Paul Kelley‏ @seanpaulkelley 9 Aug 2013
          Replying to @iwelsh

          @iwelsh @emptywheel @petercowan @aagave Yes, like the Brush Country in South Texas between Nueces River and Rio Grande. Now a wasteland of

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