And? RT @emptywheel: Those who like to call Snowden a defector: Govt charged him as a spy before he arrived in Russia.
@smsaideman Um. They leaked. If calling people who leaked leakers makes it meaningless English is meaningless. Action, action description.
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@emptywheel they did more than leak, they flooded. Big difference. Leaking suggests discretion, limitation, focus. -
@smsaideman No. Whistleblowing suggests discretion. Leaking is leaking. -
@emptywheel we are not going to converge anytime soon, and I am on a deadline. Gotta go. Enjoy your hopefully not rainy day (rain here) -
@smsaideman No. But you've dodged underlying point nicely: so long as govt overcharges w/espionage, there'll be more leaking/fleeing. -
@emptywheel not sure about that assertion. and I am not sure espionage is overcharging--depends what Snowden gave to Chinese/Russians -
@smsaideman Again, they charged him BEFORE Russia. THAT's why timeline matters. -
@emptywheel again, before China? -
@smsaideman Thus far we have NO EVIDENCE he gave them anything privately, just the leaks on us hacking China. & that's not what was charged
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