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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Mark Ames‏Verified account @MarkAmesExiled 30 Jul 2013

      Today's #Manning ruling - protects journalism while stomping leakers. "Aiding enemy" count would directly affect media. Yay, we're safe!

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    2. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 30 Jul 2013
      Replying to @MarkAmesExiled

      @MarkAmesExiled @emptywheel I'm asking this in a non-trolling way, but what do you think the just outcome would have been?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Jul 2013
      Replying to @chrislhayes

      @chrislhayes There's also the problem of prosecuting as Espionage clear evidence of crime. Only Collateral downgraded. @MarkAmesExiled

      11:31 AM - 30 Jul 2013
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        2. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @MarkAmesExiled I basically agree. my q is: what should the Army have done?

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        3. Mark Ames‏Verified account @MarkAmesExiled 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @chrislhayes

          @chrislhayes @emptywheel That's a different question. I don't like placing nondisclosure contract law, "theft" of state info above 1st amend

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        2. Hesiod Theogeny‏ @Hesiod2k11 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @chrislhayes @MarkAmesExiled - Manning pled guilty to several counts already, though. Enough for a 20 yr prison term.

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        3. Mark Ames‏Verified account @MarkAmesExiled 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @Hesiod2k11

          @Hesiod2k11 @emptywheel @chrislhayes A lot of terrified accused suspects plead guilty to avoid worst charges.

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        4. Hesiod Theogeny‏ @Hesiod2k11 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @MarkAmesExiled

          @MarkAmesExiled @emptywheel @chrislhayes --Usually you plead guilty in a plea bargain. 1st I've heard of someone pleading guilty for nothing

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        5. Struggling with modernity‏ @RancidTarzie 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @Hesiod2k11

          @Hesiod2k11 it's still beside the point. Manning's assessment of what should be done is not authoritative. @chrislhayes

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        6. Hesiod Theogeny‏ @Hesiod2k11 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @RancidTarzie

          @RancidTarzie @chrislhayes - Manning pleading guilty - with nothing in return - is certainly pretty authoritative on his guilt.

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        7. Struggling with modernity‏ @RancidTarzie 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @Hesiod2k11

          @Hesiod2k11 no it isn't. It's one person's opinion, provided under legal counsel and duress. @chrislhayes

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        8. Hesiod Theogeny‏ @Hesiod2k11 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @RancidTarzie

          @RancidTarzie @chrislhayes -- LOL!

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        9. Struggling with modernity‏ @RancidTarzie 30 Jul 2013
          Replying to @Hesiod2k11

          @Hesiod2k11 how I wish for the day when dipshit liberals stop seeing LOL as a withering rejoinder. @chrislhayes

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        1. pronoun‏ @PO4Cascade 30 Jul 2013
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          @emptywheel @chrislhayes @MarkAmesExiled Collyer recently said Espionage charges don't have to show harm anymore, which is a real problem

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