If we insist that the security services provide us with the best-possible cover against terror attacks, our liberties are expedient hostages
@leashless No. Which is one of many reasons it's not primarily abt terror. But the actual structure of it is now abt cyber, not terror.
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@emptywheel I think it's simply we haven't seen data on the other programmes. I can't see PRISM being very good for cyber, frankly. -
@leashless I guess I'm firmly of the belief that they're using it in the ways in which it deviates from the actual law. Which is cyber. -
@emptywheel I'm sure it's being used illegally. Obviously. But cyber... Snowden doesn't mention *anything* to do with TOR or decryption. -
@leashless And how can you say Snowden didn't say anything abt cyber when he leaked PPD on cyberwar showing how comms cooperate? -
@emptywheel hang on, hang on - we're talking about the backdoor into Google, Yahoo etc? Or something else? _which_ doc? -
@leashless So your first Q should be, is analyst level access to bulk data ONLY a prob w/Google, or w/comms (incl telecoms) in general? -
@emptywheel You're right, you're thinking about this in much more detail. I'm simply assuming#PRISM type programs for *everything* in reach -
@leashless See how that, plus details of min procedures, changes picture of what they're using 702 for? - 2 more replies
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