If we insist that the security services provide us with the best-possible cover against terror attacks, our liberties are expedient hostages
@leashless Have you even READ the minimization? It has an entire section devoted to keeping DOMESTIC cyber data.
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@emptywheel Yes,#PRISM is a domestic programme. We have not seen substantial leaks on the non-domestic programmes. -
@leashless I think you're confused. PRISM (702) has had overwhelmingly international successes, at least in terror. -
@emptywheel Right, but PRISM is not the gear used for, let's speculate, monitoring the Pakistani SMS networks. -
@leashless No. Which is one of many reasons it's not primarily abt terror. But the actual structure of it is now abt cyber, not terror. -
@emptywheel I think it's simply we haven't seen data on the other programmes. I can't see PRISM being very good for cyber, frankly. -
@leashless I guess I'm firmly of the belief that they're using it in the ways in which it deviates from the actual law. Which is cyber. -
@emptywheel I'm sure it's being used illegally. Obviously. But cyber... Snowden doesn't mention *anything* to do with TOR or decryption. -
@leashless And how can you say Snowden didn't say anything abt cyber when he leaked PPD on cyberwar showing how comms cooperate? - 6 more replies
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