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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Laura Rozen‏ @lrozen 25 Jun 2013

      Theory explored abt whether his concerns were guided by foreign intel via @emptywheel (who says it's nuts) http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-25/u-s-said-to-explore-possible-china-role-in-snowden-leaks.html …

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Jun 2013
      Replying to @lrozen

      @lrozen No, I think reporting and, more importantly, repeating of it sloppy. It reports the absence of evidence, has been taken as evidence

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    3. John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 25 Jun 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @lrozen Presumably you are aware that competent FIS go to great lengths to mask their involvement in such things, right?

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Jun 2013
      Replying to @20committee

      @20committee I have said fr start China involvement possible, if not before then after he got to HK. Still, that's not evidence @lrozen

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    5. John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 25 Jun 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @lrozen Again your lawyer's bias is showing. In real intel world such "evidence" often is v fragmentary - but signs can be read

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Jun 2013
      Replying to @20committee

      @20committee 1) I'm not a lawyer 2) Doesn't excuse repeating of false stories based on rumor. @lrozen

      5:03 AM - 25 Jun 2013
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        2. John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @lrozen rok @bmaz is the lawyer, whoops; u should use TN, easier; whatever u may be u r clearly not well versed in intelligence

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @20committee

          @20committee No, I'm not well versed in claiming certainty about signs that are not certain. Not a skill I aspire to. @lrozen @bmaz

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        4. John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @lrozen @bmaz You seem not to grasp that in real world of intel the "certainty" you seek is elusive, esp when RIS involved.

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        5. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @20committee

          @20committee @emptywheel @lrozen @bmaz Here's a certainty, Snowden already gave the details of IPs, emails, etc to SCMP. Are we suggesting

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        6. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @20committee @emptywheel @lrozen @bmaz are we suggesting that this bastion of free press didn't turn it all over to PRC/MSS asap?

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        7. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @20committee @emptywheel @lrozen @bmaz And, defying common sense, expecting them to publicly announce that transfer? The same in Russia?

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        8. Torquemada's Kat  🔥 😼 🔥‏ @Kat_Missouri 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @20committee @emptywheel @lrozen @bmaz anyone comprehend that it is better propaganda value for Rus/PRC to not claim Snowden directly?

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        9. John Schindler‏Verified account @20committee 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @Kat_Missouri

          @Kat_Missouri @emptywheel @lrozen @bmaz Best outcome is they get all they want from Ed, humiliate USG in process, and he moves on ....

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        1. Rusty Shackleford‏ @dap1510 25 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel But you are being overly legalistic. Since when is hard evidence required to draw an inference ... http://tmi.me/ZVxM9 

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        1. Rusty Shackleford‏ @dap1510 25 Jun 2013
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          @emptywheel Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The media frequently ask experts to opine on ... http://tmi.me/ZVwtB 

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