@emptywheel Libya actually met defined measure for success. But Syria a completely different situation & impossible to envision success
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@DanaHoule Agree Syria impossible. But are you suggesting problem w/Libya was in definition of success? Cause it's not serving our interests -
@emptywheel ...& we didn't have to take the lead. Aftermath not as chaotic as might have been. It's largely met our measures of success. -
@DanaHoule And has that measure of success advanced US interests? -
@emptywheel compared to standing by if MG committed atrocities & Egypt & Tunisia absorb couple million refugees, yes.
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That's why the Benghazi story is poison. There's a debate to be had about what we're doing there and what happened that night
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@joanwalsh Maybe that's why? There's a significant overlap bt Syria hawk and Benghazi truthers. -
@emptywheel I think that's a lot of it. The people hitting the WH the hardest on Benghazi don't want the truth to come out about the CIA etc -
@joanwalsh@emptywheel Follow the money, follow the facts, don't follow the diversion.
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@emptywheel Marcy, the situation in libya is so tenuous. There is no excuse for how poorly the US has managed it's part. -
@sharon_lynch Agree. But if we can't do that thing no one wants to call nation-building, what will happen in Syria? -
@emptywheel it is is fubar imo. many libyans are opposed to arming syria. they see has happened to their country & they understand the risk. -
@sharon_lynch The regime is already armed and shells across the country daily (cc@emptywheel) http://www.lccsyria.org/11542 http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/04/26/syria-new-air-missile-strikes-kill-civilians …
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@emptywheel Hey, I got one: Don't violate the War Powers Act and blow up separation of powers.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel@joanwalsh if you're curious to know the next direction of GOP foreign policy, just ask EXXON what they needThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel: I'd really love to see some lessons learned on Libya. You know. Before we repeat same mistakes in Syria and worse?"Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel@joanwalsh Syria is going to happen. Obama saw the even in Putins eyes. Proxy War time.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel Libya wasn't half as stupid as Syria, you might even justify it pragmatically. Assad ain't QaddaffiThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel Why bother?Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@emptywheel@joanwalsh Lessons learned on Libya were how to get away w/ covert warfare & deny it all, pretending to bring democracy to ME.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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