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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Jun 2013

    So the entire discussion about these "NSA" programs has been limited to NSA and FBI. But NCTC SURELY gets to play w/that data, right?

    7:52 PM - 13 Jun 2013
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      2. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 13 Jun 2013
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel Plus there's something - I'd have to dig up source - saying NCTC gets access to raw FBI data.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Jun 2013
        Replying to @RachelBLevinson

        @RachelBLevinson Well, NCTC gets any database it wants, per newish data sharing agreement. if they get dragnet, their JOB is data mining.

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      4. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 14 Jun 2013
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel Where's that data sharing agreement? Separate from the 2012 guidelines?

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Jun 2013
        Replying to @RachelBLevinson

        @RachelBLevinson No, that's what I was thinking of. Not much way they don't get this data.

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      2. SheNebraskan‏ @shenebraskan 13 Jun 2013
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        @emptywheel What is NCTC?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Jun 2013
        Replying to @shenebraskan

        @shenebraskan National Counterterrorism Center. By law they get access to all foreign terrorism data.

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      4. SheNebraskan‏ @shenebraskan 13 Jun 2013
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        @emptywheel FUCK. I pay attention, I think, but never heard of that one.

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      1. Rachel Levinson-Waldman‏Verified account @RachelBLevinson 13 Jun 2013
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel They're datasets containing terrorism info, so they should. Question is which track - do they send queries or ingest?

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      2. Brian Rahmer‏ @brianrahmer 13 Jun 2013
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @emptywheel NTREPID, Patriarch, etc. the data always flows downhill. http://www.privacysos.org/node/794  @onekade

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      3. onekade‏ @onekade 13 Jun 2013
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        @brianrahmer thanks for reminding me about that

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      4. Brian Rahmer‏ @brianrahmer 14 Jun 2013
        Replying to @onekade

        @onekade ...used his police database to tip off a dealer that narcotics officers were watching him. http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Arlington-PD-fires-officer-in-alleged-steroid-ring-bolsters-drug-test-policy-211484241.html …

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      5. onekade‏ @onekade 14 Jun 2013
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        @brianrahmer wow thank you.

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      1. liberal boxer‏ @liberalboxer 13 Jun 2013
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        @emptywheel that data is going to end up at your local cop shop, too. There's no stopping them, now. And many progressives are ok with it.

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