Skip to content
By using Twitter’s services you agree to our Cookies Use. We and our partners operate globally and use cookies, including for analytics, personalisation, and ads.
  • Home Home Home, current page.
  • About

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Language: English
    • Bahasa Indonesia
    • Bahasa Melayu
    • Català
    • Čeština
    • Dansk
    • Deutsch
    • English UK
    • Español
    • Filipino
    • Français
    • Hrvatski
    • Italiano
    • Magyar
    • Nederlands
    • Norsk
    • Polski
    • Português
    • Română
    • Slovenčina
    • Suomi
    • Svenska
    • Tiếng Việt
    • Türkçe
    • Ελληνικά
    • Български език
    • Русский
    • Српски
    • Українська мова
    • עִבְרִית
    • العربية
    • فارسی
    • मराठी
    • हिन्दी
    • বাংলা
    • ગુજરાતી
    • தமிழ்
    • ಕನ್ನಡ
    • ภาษาไทย
    • 한국어
    • 日本語
    • 简体中文
    • 繁體中文
  • Have an account? Log in
    Have an account?
    · Forgot password?

    New to Twitter?
    Sign up
emptywheel's profile
emptywheel
emptywheel
emptywheel
@emptywheel

Tweets

emptywheel

@emptywheel

Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

Grand Rapids, MI
emptywheel.net
Joined August 2008

Tweets

  • © 2018 Twitter
  • About
  • Help Center
  • Terms
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies
  • Ads info
Dismiss
Previous
Next

Go to a person's profile

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @

Promote this Tweet

Block

  • Tweet with a location

    You can add location information to your Tweets, such as your city or precise location, from the web and via third-party applications. You always have the option to delete your Tweet location history. Learn more

    Your lists

    Create a new list


    Under 100 characters, optional

    Privacy

    Copy link to Tweet

    Embed this Tweet

    Embed this Video

    Add this Tweet to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Add this video to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Hmm, there was a problem reaching the server.

    By embedding Twitter content in your website or app, you are agreeing to the Twitter Developer Agreement and Developer Policy.

    Preview

    Why you're seeing this ad

    Log in to Twitter

    · Forgot password?
    Don't have an account? Sign up »

    Sign up for Twitter

    Not on Twitter? Sign up, tune into the things you care about, and get updates as they happen.

    Sign up
    Have an account? Log in »

    Two-way (sending and receiving) short codes:

    Country Code For customers of
    United States 40404 (any)
    Canada 21212 (any)
    United Kingdom 86444 Vodafone, Orange, 3, O2
    Brazil 40404 Nextel, TIM
    Haiti 40404 Digicel, Voila
    Ireland 51210 Vodafone, O2
    India 53000 Bharti Airtel, Videocon, Reliance
    Indonesia 89887 AXIS, 3, Telkomsel, Indosat, XL Axiata
    Italy 4880804 Wind
    3424486444 Vodafone
    » See SMS short codes for other countries

    Confirmation

     

    Welcome home!

    This timeline is where you’ll spend most of your time, getting instant updates about what matters to you.

    Tweets not working for you?

    Hover over the profile pic and click the Following button to unfollow any account.

    Say a lot with a little

    When you see a Tweet you love, tap the heart — it lets the person who wrote it know you shared the love.

    Spread the word

    The fastest way to share someone else’s Tweet with your followers is with a Retweet. Tap the icon to send it instantly.

    Join the conversation

    Add your thoughts about any Tweet with a Reply. Find a topic you’re passionate about, and jump right in.

    Learn the latest

    Get instant insight into what people are talking about now.

    Get more of what you love

    Follow more accounts to get instant updates about topics you care about.

    Find what's happening

    See the latest conversations about any topic instantly.

    Never miss a Moment

    Catch up instantly on the best stories happening as they unfold.

    1. Charlie Savage‏Verified account @charlie_savage 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Then why did you describe it as a program to collect email data, not call log data? @BuzzFeedBen

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @charlie_savage

      @charlie_savage Sorry. I used "data" to mean "metadata." But issue was still Reuters clearly conflating two programs. @BuzzFeedBen

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Charlie Savage‏Verified account @charlie_savage 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @BuzzFeedBen It's the 'email' part of that phrase in which you appear to be talking about PRISM, as the other one is phone data

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @charlie_savage

      @charlie_savage OK. See your point. But isn't PRISM abt collecting email CONTENT? Point is getting to Bomb help request. @BuzzFeedBen

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Charlie Savage‏Verified account @charlie_savage 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Point @emptywheel @BuzzFeedBen is while feds couldve gotten ind warrant for that account (& crushing # of others) that's just the FAA debate

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @charlie_savage

      @charlie_savage May be your point. Mine is false suggestion that PRISM was analytical tool, not monitoring convenience. @BuzzFeedBen

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Ben Smith‏Verified account @BuzzFeedBen 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @charlie_savage so maybe we agree/guess that both critics and DNI overstate importance of prism, if for different reasons?

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Eric Heggie‏ @EricHeggie 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @BuzzFeedBen

      @BuzzFeedBen @emptywheel @charlie_savage so the three of you may want to read @marcambinder's primer on PRISM http://m.theweek.com/article.php?id=245360 …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @EricHeggie

      emptywheel Retweeted Marc Ambinder

      @ericheggie Here's what Ambinder tweeted last night: https://twitter.com/marcambinder/status/343208263359295488 … @BuzzFeedBen @charlie_savage @marcambinder

      emptywheel added,

      Marc AmbinderVerified account @marcambinder
      Replying to @emptywheel
      @emptywheel @speechboy71 @BuzzFeedBen in other words. They’d had gotten Zazi under the old rules too
      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Eric Heggie‏ @EricHeggie 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel @BuzzFeedBen @charlie_savage @marcambinder all this data work didn't stop Hassan, the underwear bomber, Times Square, or Boston

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Jun 2013
      Replying to @EricHeggie

      @ericheggie Right. Tho I just asked whether feed on Awlaki used PRISM: Hasan did show, not tracked, Undie may not have shown (text tho)

      7:39 AM - 8 Jun 2013
      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        1. New conversation
        2. Eric Heggie‏ @EricHeggie 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel their predictive models don't seem to work well

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @EricHeggie

          @ericheggie Also, Hasan's more interesting behaviors were offline. Doesn't mean emails weren't evidence, just not most important.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Eric Heggie‏ @EricHeggie 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel if Hassan's interesting things were offline it just proves once again the value of Humint over big data.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @EricHeggie

          @ericheggie To some degree, comes down to question of what is worth investigating w/limited time. Hindsight saws Hasan was.

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Eric Heggie‏ @EricHeggie 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel but that is why the NSA needs all this data. Betting their argument is all the data builds a predictive model so they can spot

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. End of conversation
        1. New conversation
        2. Eric Heggie‏ @EricHeggie 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel that's the real question, why did it not is Hassan? We know he was emailing with awlaki still didn't stop him.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @EricHeggie

          @ericheggie Have you read Webster? 2 reasons: 1) he said suspicious but not PC things 2) FBI offices didn't play well together.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Eric Heggie‏ @EricHeggie 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel haven't read Webster. And different offices in a bureaucracy not getting along? That's unpossible.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. End of conversation
        1. Eric Heggie‏ @EricHeggie 8 Jun 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel I am convinced a lot of this is modeling to see if they can find potential suspicious people. Why you'd need the meta data

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
          Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. Undo
          Undo

      Loading seems to be taking a while.

      Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.

        Promoted Tweet

        false

        • © 2018 Twitter
        • About
        • Help Center
        • Terms
        • Privacy policy
        • Cookies
        • Ads info