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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 May 2013

      @FranklyFrantic If CIA killed Abu Yahya (they did), that makes them (illegal) combatants, and therefore targets. @Ali_Gharib

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    2. Ali Gharib‏ @Ali_Gharib 16 May 2013
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel But isn't the relevant part of deciding if it's terror whether or not the attackers *knew*? @FranklyFrantic

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 May 2013
      Replying to @Ali_Gharib

      @Ali_Gharib If they knew CIA has become an assassination outfit? @FranklyFrantic

      7:01 AM - 16 May 2013
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        2. Ali Gharib‏ @Ali_Gharib 16 May 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel *And* they knew/suspected that these operations were being run out of the consulate. @FranklyFrantic

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 May 2013
          Replying to @Ali_Gharib

          @Ali_Gharib They weren't run out of the "consulate" (AKA mission), they were run out of the Annex.

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        4. Ali Gharib‏ @Ali_Gharib 16 May 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Right, sorry, 'mission' - wrong terminology. But the important part is *intent* in attacking the mission, no?

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 May 2013
          Replying to @Ali_Gharib

          @Ali_Gharib Why? Has the CIA not become a combatant Agency? There's no rule that US soldiers may only be attacked in some countries.

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        6. Ali Gharib‏ @Ali_Gharib 16 May 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel legal targets.

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 May 2013
          Replying to @Ali_Gharib

          @Ali_Gharib Except that we maintain entire world is battlefield. We maintain we can kill any of "them," incl messengers & cooks anywhere

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        8. Remi Brulin‏ @RBrulin 16 May 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @Ali_Gharib Indeed. See Emmerson's remark about law of war reciprocity the other day at Brookings.

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        2. Ali Gharib‏ @Ali_Gharib 16 May 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Linking those ops to the consulate merely by the logic that they're USG ops is not really enuf. @FranklyFrantic

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        2. Elliott Troy‏ @AngloGyptian 16 May 2013
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel @ali_gharib Killing Chris Stephens is terrorism, whether or not the CIA had anything to do with it does not change THAT point

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        3. Ali Gharib‏ @Ali_Gharib 16 May 2013
          Replying to @AngloGyptian

          @FranklyFrantic Of course it does. If they were knowingly attacking a CIA station involved in ops and Stevens died as a restult @emptywheel

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