@emptywheel @ggreenwald @alexisgoldstein being Mirandized not moment state bestows rights, tho. Don't I have those rights w/out recitation?
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@emptywheel@ggreenwald@alexisgoldstein I mean, I have a right to a lawyer whether you tell me I do or not, don't I? -
@geekchicohio Point is, often guy waives (say, to get cigarette, or out of worry for family), don't see judge, therefore don't get lawyer. -
@emptywheel ok. They just make it sound like there's some magic where they don't read the rights so they don't exist, which sounds like BS. -
@geekchicohio Sure. But the practical matter is you usually get a lawyer when you see a judge, and that changes interrogation tactics.
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