@speechboy71 One can also pretend that had he held the line in 2010 nothing would have happened.
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Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel If he held the line in 2010 he doesn't get UI extension, payroll tax, START and DADT. How is that a win?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @speechboy71
@speechboy71 He doesn't get it right away, correct. And a lot else happens bad, which is about to happen bad now, w/worst off worse off.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel He doesn't get it all! I can't argue this with you - you're wedded to an analysis that doesn't make sense2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @speechboy71
@speechboy71 Which is precisely what I thnk of you. I'm talking about welfare of the country, you're talking about petty partisan games.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel If you're talking about the welfare of the country then your argument is simply nonsensical from an economic standpoint1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @speechboy71
@speechboy71 You keep saying that. But you're basing it on a static view of history, ignoring calling GOP bluff AT LESS RISKIER time.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel@speechboy71 You're mistakenly assuming GOP insanity influenced by "less riskier times." I think THAT isn't hard nosed realism1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @DanaHoule
@DanaHoule I'm not assuming that. They were batshit crazy then, batshit crazy now (though the billionaires are demanding more blood now).1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel Uh, I'm not sure the billionaires are worse now than in 2010/2011. Debt ceiling seems to have spooked non-zealot Wall Streeters1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@DanaHoule Agree with that. But November seems to have made Koch and those who just lost 500M more reckless.
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