@emptywheel @danahoule @philiparsenault No I think we're saying that Obama got a great deal in 2010 - which he did.
@DanaHoule I @PhilipArsenault @speechboy71 So you folks are telling me incompetent Mitt AND Akin and Mourdouck are all abt 2010? Um, okay.
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@speechboy71 And I happen to think you're crazy. He got the batshit GOP we're dealing with now. He's had it for 2 years. -
@emptywheel They were batshit crazy then; they are batshit crazy now - and Obama has outplayed them both times -
@speechboy71 I think you're playing a game that is entirely about minor party wins but not saving the country. -
@emptywheel@speechboy71 pulling more $ out of econ in 2010, missing unemployment xt, payroll tax cut etc., would not have saved country -
@xpostfactoid1 Again, the assumption on all these is that GOP will continue to win forever. At some point Dems need to play to win.
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@emptywheel@speechboy71 not forever, but likely in '12 if they had succeeded in further econ sabotage, starving us of stimulus -
@xpostfactoid1 The consequences in 2010 were Immediate, but less risky than debt limit last year or than this.
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@emptywheel@PhilipArsenault@speechboy71 I'm saying all the people that said it doomed him were a bit Halperinesque in their assessments -
@DanaHoule Well, good. I didn't say that. I said it caused a lot of pain, cost a lot of money, and made his presidency a lot less effective. -
@emptywheel so it's his fault the Senate is FUBAR?
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@emptywheel@DanaHoule@PhilipArsenault@speechboy71 no...O dragged home just enough stimulus, boosted in 2011 to win on econ fundamentalsThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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