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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. onekade‏ @onekade 17 Dec 2012

      When DiFi says that FISA authorities "have proven critical tools" for blah blah, we just have to take her word for it, right @emptywheel?

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @onekade

      @kade_ellis Well, we know wiretapping Awlaki provided us Muslim teenagers to entrap. There's that.

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    3. onekade‏ @onekade 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel yap ok. Anything else we know? They don't, like, have any public records to show for this spying, right?

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @onekade

      @kade_ellis Zazi depended on wiretap. British liquids plot both did, but then was busted up bc we leaked it.

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    5. onekade‏ @onekade 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel but would they not have been able to get Zazi and liquids under pre-2008 authorities? If you've written this please forgive me.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @onekade

      @kade_ellis They could have gotten a warrant, yes. But they might not have tracked him if they had to.

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    7. onekade‏ @onekade 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel sorry, I don't understand why. Because they are lazy?

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    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @onekade

      @kade_ellis Sort of. Because this helps them avoid prioritizing. Mind you, I'm just guessing.

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    9. onekade‏ @onekade 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel Ok. So that answers my original question, which is that when DiFi says "have proven critical" there's not much to judge this w.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Dec 2012
      Replying to @onekade

      @kade_ellis That is, you SEEM to be assuming that the reasons are non-existent, rather than that the reasons are illegitimate.

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        1. onekade‏ @onekade 17 Dec 2012
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel no, no. I assume they have their "Reasons," I just think that if aired to the public they wouldn't hold up. Therefore: secrecy.

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