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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2012

      Keep coming back to this: When Nidal Hasan killed 13 at Ft. Hood, it was failure of President/NatSec. When kid kills 20 little kids? No.

      5 replies 6 retweets 2 likes
    2. Michael Drew‏ @MikeDrewWhat 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel I don't remember it that way. I remember people mainly questioning military psych screening.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @MikeDrewWhat

      @MikeDrewWhat Well, then why did NCTC just get access to all our data partially as a result?

      5 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Michael Drew‏ @MikeDrewWhat 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel ...Whatever arguments those are, they don't make this a failure of the national security bureaucracy.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @MikeDrewWhat

      @MikeDrewWhat If NatSec definition excludes the biggest threats to the security of this country, that's a problem.

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    6. Michael Drew‏ @MikeDrewWhat 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel "National security" has always meant certain things & not others - i.e. outside threats. Do you like it when "NatSec" rhetoric>>

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @MikeDrewWhat

      @MikeDrewWhat 1) Not since 9/11 when we've been wiretapping domestically in name of NatSec, 2) that's a problem then.

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    8. Michael Drew‏ @MikeDrewWhat 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel If fighting domestic crime/terrorism has been given more tools since 9/11, still doesn't make it Nat Sec. Civ libs fought that.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @MikeDrewWhat

      @MikeDrewWhat Our federal data, our airplane trips, our $$, our emails, all now a subject of NatSec. But only for Islamic terror & drugs.

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    10. Michael Drew‏ @MikeDrewWhat 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @emptywheel

      @emptywheel I question whether that "only" is clean.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2012
      Replying to @MikeDrewWhat

      @MikeDrewWhat The EXCUSE is Nat Sec--even using non-terror to recruit informants. But we'd never use it to fight crazy Americans w/guns.

      5:08 AM - 15 Dec 2012
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        2. Michael Drew‏ @MikeDrewWhat 15 Dec 2012
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel The FBI is all the fuck over white guys like the one who shot up the Sikh temple in my state. Pretty sure they use those tools.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2012
          Replying to @MikeDrewWhat

          @MikeDrewWhat Well, legally the burden is much higher. Plus, even there no one demanded internal threat report on skinheads in military.

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        4. Michael Drew‏ @MikeDrewWhat 15 Dec 2012
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel Uh... he wasn't in the active service or even reserves. Was involuntarily discharged years before.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Dec 2012
          Replying to @MikeDrewWhat

          @MikeDrewWhat Sure. But we're training an awful lot of skinheads how to be more effective. Partly bc we need more bodies to fight Muslims.

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        6. Michael Drew‏ @MikeDrewWhat 15 Dec 2012
          Replying to @emptywheel

          @emptywheel So what do you want to do about that national security threat? Or you want to get of of the phrase? What's you position?

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