Keep coming back to this: When Nidal Hasan killed 13 at Ft. Hood, it was failure of President/NatSec. When kid kills 20 little kids? No.
@MikeDrewWhat Well, then why did NCTC just get access to all our data partially as a result?
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@emptywheel ...Whatever arguments those are, they don't make this a failure of the national security bureaucracy. -
@MikeDrewWhat THen we define "nat sec bureaucracy" incorrectly, and badly so. -
@emptywheel Just to point out: those args may not make the case adequately wrt to Hasan either. I didn't regard that as a nat sec failure. -
@MikeDrewWhat Oh, I don't either. But like I said, Pete Hoekstra used Awlaki intercepts to argue it was. -
@emptywheel What Pete Hoekstra argues doesn't characterize general reaction the way "was" in your tweet denotes. -
@MikeDrewWhat Well, he got a whole lot of press, which led to 3 years study on targeting of internal threats. -
@emptywheel Well yr tweet suggested you think the gen reaction was it "was failure of President/NatSec." Had it not, u wldntve heard from me -
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@emptywheel >apparatus failure as a cause for Hasan incident. -
@MikeDrewWhat BC remember there was mistaken belief tie to Awlaki was the alarm they ignored.
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@emptywheel Over time bureaucracy exploits whatever it can to get what it wants. I don't recall people talking about either O or NatSec app> -
@MikeDrewWhat Pete Hoekstra leaked NSA wiretap info to do so, for starters.
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@emptywheel Thought you were talking about proximate reaction. (Oh yeah forgot, you're always focused on whatever yr current hobbyhorse is). -
@MikeDrewWhat This is ALWAYS my hobbyhorse. We ignore things that are bigger threats (also, climate change) and fearmonger on rest.
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@emptywheel ..Contemporaneous to the event, that is. Whatever args led to NCTC thing you're concerned about need to be taken on their meritsThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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