@benjaminwittes We know of numerous instances where US has decided obvious Civilians are acceptable--Mehsud's wife=best example
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Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel Yes, absolutely. Good point. There are definitely cases where we have made judgment that some civ cas are acceptable.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @benjaminwittes
@benjaminwittes Therefore we should not assume military is always seeing just armed men w/HVTs. Or that HVTs at bases, rather than jirgas.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel That was an example of a situation where count can be hard. it was not meant to be the only example.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @benjaminwittes
@benjaminwittes Fair enuff. But once you accept lots of strikes involve CIVCAS deemed acceptable, you get into @BartHKreps@deviatar point.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel Agreed. But@deviatar is making more radical point: that must assume body is civilian in absence of very strong proof otherwise.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @benjaminwittes
@benjaminwittes But your "proof" is not proof. It's associative, when we know US has tolerance for CIVCAS. Like farmer killed in Quso strike1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel I'm not talking about proof. I'm talking about presumptions in the absence of proof.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @benjaminwittes
@benjaminwittes But your presumption are not supported by evidence from known strikes. You're presuming stuff USG refuses to share.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel And I professed agnosticism as to what a reasonable set of presumptions would be for an org that wanted to count civilian deaths1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@benjaminwittes Just bc John Brennan has made a claim in speech that contains obviously BS comments doesn't mean he's telling truth.
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