@AdamSerwer Which is why I objected with the way you initiated this discussion, about "liberal" policies--neither is liberal.
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Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel excluding black people from social security wasn't particularly liberal either but I'm glad social security exists2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @AdamSerwer
@AdamSerwer But GIVING social security is different than GIVING terrible private companies captive customers.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel and yet like SS, there are obvious things liberals can do to alleviate its worst aspects. Couldn't if it didn't exist.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @AdamSerwer
@AdamSerwer And regardless, that doesn't make it a LIBERAL policy. My gripe is in your assertion it is. It's not.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel as I said earlier, it's a conservative means to a liberal end, which is covering more people.4 replies 1 retweet 0 likes -
Replying to @AdamSerwer
@AdamSerwer@emptywheel Arguably, "covering more people" is a HUMANITARIAM end. Liberal v conservative is about the role of gvt in that.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@karinjr@emptywheel lots of conservatives today don't see universal coverage as morally desirable.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @AdamSerwer
@AdamSerwer To use today's radicals who claim to be conservative so that you can claim Obama the centrist is liberal sort of proves my point1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes -
Replying to @emptywheel
@emptywheel I didn't say Obama wasn't a centrist. He's practically GWHB. I said policy-wise, he's more liberal than Clinton.3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@AdamSerwer I mean, you could make the same arguments you're making about Nixon or Ford. Are they liberal now?
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