@AdamSerwer No, the fact that Obama has done NOTHING to make Medicaid expansion a political issue since. Cmon, that's a big fail.
@AdamSerwer But GIVING social security is different than GIVING terrible private companies captive customers.
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@emptywheel and yet like SS, there are obvious things liberals can do to alleviate its worst aspects. Couldn't if it didn't exist. -
@AdamSerwer And regardless, that doesn't make it a LIBERAL policy. My gripe is in your assertion it is. It's not. -
@emptywheel as I said earlier, it's a conservative means to a liberal end, which is covering more people. -
@AdamSerwer@emptywheel Arguably, "covering more people" is a HUMANITARIAM end. Liberal v conservative is about the role of gvt in that. -
@karinjr@emptywheel lots of conservatives today don't see universal coverage as morally desirable. -
@AdamSerwer To use today's radicals who claim to be conservative so that you can claim Obama the centrist is liberal sort of proves my point -
@emptywheel I didn't say Obama wasn't a centrist. He's practically GWHB. I said policy-wise, he's more liberal than Clinton. -
@AdamSerwer And I think you have instead proven that policy-wise he's more effective at achieving centrist policies. He's not liberal.
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