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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 29

    emptywheel Retweeted Adam Serwer  🍝

    Same is true for sexual assault. One guy I knew wasn't prosecuted for his first two assaults, against Amherst women. He *was* prosecuted when he assaulted a UMass woman, bc the local cops actually dealt with it.https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/1046078139951132672 …

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    Adam Serwer  🍝Verified account @AdamSerwer
    One of the rarely-discussed perks of those private schools, by the way is private security that doesn't call the cops when they bust rich kids doing lines in a dorm room. Being in a community that is policed, and one that isn't, can make a huge difference in your life trajectory.
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      2. Swearin' Spartacus‏ @Spartacussin Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        ...wait did you go to one of the Five Colleges?? (Sorry it's off-topic, but I'm a Smithie!)

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 29
        Replying to @Spartacussin

        Amherst 1990.

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      4. Swearin' Spartacus‏ @Spartacussin Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        High five! Smith 2002! (And now back to serious stuff, sorry)

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 29
        Replying to @Spartacussin

        <----old lady. Hopefully Smith women were treated better by Amherst men than they were when I was there.

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      6. Swearin' Spartacus‏ @Spartacussin Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I can honestly say I never heard anything about an Amherst guy specifically, though there were a few horrific attacks. But for me personally, I only went to parties on Smith campus and all the boys bussed in stayed on their best behavior in fear of vengeful lesbians

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 29
        Replying to @Spartacussin

        LOL. The vengeful lesbians. I lived in Crossett my sophmore year, and had good friends live there my junior year. There was a late late party in the 8-person first floor room my junior year out of which there were multiple stories of tag team rape.

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      8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel @Spartacussin

        I incited an assault once after I graduated by saying, in the presence of one of those responsible, that I was sure people close to the guy I was talking to (I mean, standing right next to you) had done that.

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      9. Swearin' Spartacus‏ @Spartacussin Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Christ, I am so so sorry. I cannot imagine having th gumption to say that to his face, you are incredible for doing that. I hope he falls down a well.

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      2. anne cunningham‏ @queencityac Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I was Amherst '92. I remember someone being arrested for sexual assault when I was there, and assume it's the same incident. Was the guy my year, do you know?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 29
        Replying to @queencityac

        Yes. IIRC he had raped a woman in your class, and harassed someone I was close friends with, by my senior year. The tag-team rapists would have been too. But IIRC the 93 class was worst of all.

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      4. anne cunningham‏ @queencityac Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Thanks. Yes. I think I can picture him.

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      2. Martha Bridegam‏ @MBridegam Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel @GreatDismal

        Orientation in our freshman dorm at Harvard in 1985 included advice, if arrested by Cambridge police, to call the Harvard police.

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      3. Eileen Clancy‏ @clancynewyork Sep 30
        Replying to @MBridegam @emptywheel @GreatDismal

        JFC

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      2. Erin Howard‏ @ErinStreamline Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Points to what I think is mistake by the victim advocates. Historically they stressed victim should have choice of handling through univ. system or through police. I've always thought this was crazy. Univ judicial systems are set up for things like plagiarism, not violent crime

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      3. Liddle Lamzy Dive‏ @saucissonsec Sep 30
        Replying to @ErinStreamline @emptywheel

        The flip side is that college disciplinary systems can immediately expel the perpetrator (not that they do, but they *could*), versus a criminal proceeding which would drag on for months or even years, while the perpetrator is still there on campus in proximity to the victims.

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      4. Liddle Lamzy Dive‏ @saucissonsec Sep 30
        Replying to @saucissonsec @ErinStreamline @emptywheel

        I don't have a good solution for that, but that's the reasoning, anyway.

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      5. Erin Howard‏ @ErinStreamline Sep 30
        Replying to @saucissonsec @emptywheel

        True, & I think intent is also to empower & give agency to victim who has had that taken away. Training I was given for crisis hotline response in college was assure them any choice (report, not report, police or university system) is ok which I understand.

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      1. Who's the Cheekybutt‏ @ALKATEX Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Especially when Kavanaugh’s mother was the county prosecutor

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      1. SPOOOOOKYgrunt  🇺🇸‏ @soonergrunt Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel @doctorscience

        Of if you're at a public university and you have a certain name like on one or more buildings, or if you're a scholarship athlete.

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      1. Gabe Rosenberg‏ @Gaber205 Sep 29
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I was UMass 94-99 and I remember hearing that story. Amherst continues to have the reputation of covering up assault, and UMass has an actual police force on campus, in addition to the Amherst police force.

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