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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 26

    emptywheel Retweeted Lindsey Graham

    I'm not a believer in 11-dimensional chess and really ALL sides should be focused on Swetnick, not her attorney. But by hiring Avenatti, she might as well have baited the worst kind of dismissive behavior from Republican men.https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1044997722410037248 …

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    Lindsey GrahamVerified account @LindseyGrahamSC
    From my view, just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, it just did. The lawyer to porn stars has just taken this debacle to an even lower level. I hope people will be highly suspicious of this allegation presented by Michael Avenatti.
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      2. Vote November 6th‏ @leahmcelrath Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        You're focusing on her attorney in this tweet, Marcy. And - although I know you do not mean it this way - it comes across as victim-blaming.

        6 replies 7 retweets 63 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 26
        Replying to @leahmcelrath

        No. I mean it to suggest that if it was intentional it was unbelievably smart.

        12 replies 9 retweets 123 likes
      4. Vote November 6th‏ @leahmcelrath Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Ah. Gotcha. You are a bit like me, I think, in that we have complex thought processes within our minds that sometimes do not come across in the words we verbalize or write.

        3 replies 3 retweets 38 likes
      5. Vote November 6th‏ @leahmcelrath Sep 26
        Replying to @leahmcelrath @emptywheel

        (Which, to clarify, lol - because I think I just did it again - is a compliment. I often assume things that are obvious to me are self-evident to others as well. So I sometimes blurt out portions of thought without the context that's in my mind.)

        2 replies 3 retweets 22 likes
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 26
        Replying to @leahmcelrath

        Yeah, I see that now, and I appreciate you noting that it might be taken that way. I definitely did not mean it that way.

        3 replies 4 retweets 30 likes
      7. Vote November 6th‏ @leahmcelrath Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        💜

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      2. JulieMcMcMc‏ @JulieMurtry Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        As a woman I have to disagree. In the 80s I was deposed once in a Real Estate case that I brought forward (and won). The corp attorney that deposed me immediately attacked my credibility in a sexual way. My atty (a judge pro tem) was as aggressive AS HE WAS REQUIRED TO BE

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. JulieMcMcMc‏ @JulieMurtry Sep 26
        Replying to @JulieMurtry @emptywheel

        as my counsel. Later, in what was to be a settlement hearing my attorney had to force their attorney out of the room for physically threatening me. I think focusing on Avanatti’s style must be done in the context of the climate around this case. He might be a shark but

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. JulieMcMcMc‏ @JulieMurtry Sep 26
        Replying to @JulieMurtry @emptywheel

        In these waters, better a shark than a seal. He is the right person for the job.

        0 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
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      2. David Dellanave‏Verified account @ddn Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        probably true but an alternative view is that she hired the one guy who has consistently demonstrated an ability to beat them at their own game, norm worshiping be damned.

        1 reply 0 retweets 20 likes
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      1. Chris Andersen‏ @ChrisAndersen Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        They were always going to dismiss the accusations regardless of who represents the accusers. You might as well have someone who knows how to play the media.

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      1. Jordan‏ @jorleigh1 Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Honestly if I was going to come forward against someone in the GOP right now he is who I would hire.. they would tear another lawyer to shreds at least avenatti has successfully taken trump on

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      1. Bill Garber‏ @BillGarber_ Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Sadly, nobody is surprised about Senator Graham’s statements anymore.

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      1. El Mero mas Mero‏ @El_Bumeromero Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I think many, including Swetnick and certainly Avenatti, realize that the battlefield here is in the media and public perception. Certainly in the Daniels case he proved to be brutally effective. I think maximizing GOP on-record misogyny is a key point of leverage.

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      2. Brimstone Ashe‏ @BrimstoneAshe Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        As you've pointed out all sides should be focused in Swetnick, but the GOP will make it about Avenatti hoping to bait his ego. Like a quarterback trying to bait a defense to jump offsides on a 3rd and 1. Hopefully Avenatti doesn't take the bait.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. Brimstone Ashe‏ @BrimstoneAshe Sep 26
        Replying to @BrimstoneAshe @emptywheel

        Apologies in advance for the football analogy, but it seemed the most accurate to what I think the GOP will do.

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      1. Rob Killion‏ @86_RSK Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel

        So you’re saying she made a strategically smart choice?

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      1. Bill Brennan‏ @BillBrennansays Sep 26
        Replying to @emptywheel @DavidOry

        She also ensured that her lawyer would not be scared off or bought out. Who cares what Republican men do at this point - being nice to them has not ever worked.

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