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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 20

      Why the hell do people continue to make @ggreenwald into the bogeyman of the Russian investigation? This portrayal is not accurate as of this date. And if he's the ONLY one (he's not but the others are more complex), then it's NOT a lefty thing. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/russia-interference-election-trump-clinton.html …pic.twitter.com/Ld5h5HWJvC

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 20

      There are actually far more interesting lefty bogeymen (with the advantage that they're actually left!), ones who think they've studied the details, but explaining why they're skeptical would require more nuance.

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    3. Smelodies‏ @SmelOdiesOG Sep 20
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      I assume you’re not referring to Mate here.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 20
      Replying to @SmelOdiesOG @ggreenwald

      Not really. I think Katrina vanden Heuvel is really interesting, as is Ray McGovern. But would raise some interesting questions.

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        2. Smelodies‏ @SmelOdiesOG Sep 20
          Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

          Do you draw a distinction in your piece between skeptics and denialists? And at what point during the avalanche of evidence do all skeptics become denialists?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 20
          Replying to @SmelOdiesOG @ggreenwald

          Whichever it is, both vanden Heuvel and McGovern are more interesting at this point in time than Glenn.

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        4. Smelodies‏ @SmelOdiesOG Sep 20
          Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

          Okay, I’ll check ‘em out. In answer to your question, I think it’s because he’s particularly clever/lawyerly/combative about his skepticism (or denialism masquerading as skepticism) and has amassed a ton of followers and readers in the years leading up to this.

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        2. brian pillion‏ @anaphoristand Sep 20
          Replying to @emptywheel @SmelOdiesOG @ggreenwald

          I'm pretty sure @propornot has the historic goods on Katrina, and spouse Stephen Cohen. Russia's long inserted itself on both left and right fringes, and as a leftist, I find the apologists and assets (whether witting or otherwise) on our side pretty loathsome, if understandable.

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        3. PropOrNot ID Service  🇺🇸‏ @propornot Sep 20
          Replying to @anaphoristand @emptywheel and

          This is good background on Steven, & much of it applies to Katrina as well. The Kremlin's influence on the old hard-left hasn't gone away.https://www.chronicle.com/article/Is-This-Professor-Putin-s/241777 …

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        4. PropOrNot ID Service  🇺🇸‏ @propornot Sep 20
          Replying to @propornot @anaphoristand and

          More background on Cohen: https://usefulstooges.com/tag/stephen-f-cohen/ …

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        5. PropOrNot ID Service  🇺🇸‏ @propornot Sep 20
          Replying to @propornot @anaphoristand and

          This is a decent look at Cohen from 2014: http://amp.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/07/stephen_cohen_vladimir_putin_s_apologist_the_nation_just_published_the_most.html …

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        6. PropOrNot ID Service  🇺🇸‏ @propornot Sep 20
          Replying to @propornot @anaphoristand and

          This is a good more-recent summary:https://www.thedailybeast.com/meet-stephen-f-cohen-vladimir-putins-best-friend-in-the-american-media …

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