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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14

      emptywheel Retweeted Del Quentin Wilber

      This was obvious from the way this went down. Mueller got him to do ... something with that 1.5 hour delay this morning. So it's too late for Trump to avoid that testimony w/a pardon.https://twitter.com/DelWilber/status/1040622275735822337 …

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      Del Quentin WilberVerified account @DelWilber
      !!! Prosecutor says that Manafort is cooperating with special counsel investigation !!!
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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14

      Honestly, there is not a way in hell that no reporting team confirmed he was not cooperating. So you knew he was cooperating by the failure of anyone to get clarity on that. Mueller has basically delayed that news until after Manafort already gave them key evidence.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14

      One other thing that has gotten too little attention. Manafort learned what Gates already testified to in prep for the EDVA trial. So he knows that Gates had already gotten Mueller 90% of the way to the Russian conspiracy charge.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14

      Reasons why this is pardon proof: 1) Mueller already got the key pieces of testimony a pardon would thwart. 2) Manafort is subject to civil forfeiture; he loses $46M even w/pardon. 3) The dropped charges can be filed in states. A pardon, at this point, does nothing. Nothing.

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    5. Kenneth Bernstein‏ @teacherken Sep 16
      Replying to @emptywheel @TexDem_Dkos

      disagree - two things a pardon does: 1) gives evidence to Mueller of an attempt to obstruct justice; 2) provides impetus to move Republicans towards protecting Mueller and considering impeachment

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 16
      Replying to @teacherken @TexDem_Dkos

      Ken I’m about to institute a policy of blocking people who still repeat the obstruction meme.

      6:34 AM - 16 Sep 2018
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        2. Kenneth Bernstein‏ @teacherken Sep 16
          Replying to @emptywheel @TexDem_Dkos

          Marcy, are u saying I am repeating an obstruction meme? I am simply observing that there could be impacts of a pardon beyond Mueller's legal case, at least as I heard it including from some Dem electeds who speculated that Manafort was about to flip before Friday

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 16
          Replying to @teacherken @TexDem_Dkos

          Anyone who suggests Mueller is pursuing obstruction as the primary issue against Trump at this point is doing Rudy's PR work for him.

          1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
        4. Kenneth Bernstein‏ @teacherken Sep 16
          Replying to @emptywheel @TexDem_Dkos

          Didn't say it was primary concern, but wld also b wrong 2 argue it isn't part of what he is exploring. A pardon of Manafort now would go to state of mind as part of a pattern, & my response to you was also about political implication. Agreed that pardon doesn't help Manafort now

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 16
          Replying to @teacherken @TexDem_Dkos

          Mueller is so far beyond the place where he's "exploring" obstruction. Does he have Trump dead to rights on it? Yup. And while a dangled pardon might be more compelling than Comey, he's already go plenty of evidence. But at this point obstruction charges are just tactical.

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        6. Kenneth Bernstein‏ @teacherken Sep 16
          Replying to @emptywheel @TexDem_Dkos

          I don't disagree. But apropos a pardon, partially quoting Seth Waxman: "if the president were to pardon Manafort under these circumstances, the case against the president for obstruction of justice would be even more compelling"

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