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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 15

    A Comparison of Rick Gates and Paul Manafort's Plea Deals https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/09/15/a-comparison-of-rick-gates-and-paul-manaforts-plea-deals/ … The most interesting difference, aside from the expansive forfeiture language, is that Gates' plea included a gag that Manafort's does not.

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      2. Andrew Prokop‏Verified account @awprokop Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

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        Noticed one other difference here: Use of "This Office" for Gates vs. "the Government" for Manafort. Nod to SDNY probe? Firing-proofing?https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1040749191167913986 …

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        Andrew ProkopVerified account @awprokop
        Comparing Gates and Manafort plea agreements -- Gates's interestingly refers to cooperation with "this Office" while Manafort's refers to "the Government." (Also, both have the "District of Colombia" typo.) pic.twitter.com/wtB2HT0gtj
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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 15
        Replying to @awprokop

        Ah right I meant to go find that. I think that may also pertain to some other issues.

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      1.  🌎 Infogarden  🛸‏ @liberty_42 Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Perhaps Mueller will run a "Help us solve these crimes" ads on Fox & Friends with Paul Manafort seeking assistance...

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      1. Willis Warren‏ @warisill Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        As Marcy has written, and others have verified, this Manafort deal lays out a path to pardon proof charges. The Gates gag was necessary, to lay the groundwork for this. Now, it's over.

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      1. Sajizzle‏ @Sajizzle Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        State charges?pic.twitter.com/EtJLePaY5G

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      2. vinkayem‏ @VinkayemKaren Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        What do you think of the theory that Manafort may have gotten this deal only for what he has on the Russians, and he has nothing on Trump or Jr.?

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      3. Michelle Love‏ @MamaRNLove Sep 15
        Replying to @VinkayemKaren @emptywheel

        I think it's NYT who published today that source for that was SHS and Guiliani, sooo...🤣

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      4. vinkayem‏ @VinkayemKaren Sep 15
        Replying to @MamaRNLove @emptywheel

        No, I'm not listening to those two, lol. But @CevallosLaw said the same thing on @MSNBC this a.m. & my thought was Mueller would not have taken that deal to get Russians, who will never step foot in an American courtroom, at least I hope not.

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      5. Michelle Love‏ @MamaRNLove Sep 15
        Replying to @VinkayemKaren @emptywheel and

        He may have said that before sources were released.

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      1. OneEyedUndertaker‏ @AlMalckelpheeJr Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Am I the only one that thinks something beyond huge is lurking underneath all this? Like when all of Walter White's atrocities came out in Breaking Bad style.

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      1. nothingisamiss‏ @danagoldman1 Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Thank you for this

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      1. Marcee Lundeen‏ @LundeenMarcee Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Manafort is in jail, Gates is not.

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      2. PastaFace PizzaBoy‏ @Couple_o_toes Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Is it strange that Manafort wasnt required to leave his joint cooperation agreement with Trump lawyers?

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      3. ND Palma‏ @nd_palma Sep 15
        Replying to @Couple_o_toes @emptywheel

        Are you sure?

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      4. PastaFace PizzaBoy‏ @Couple_o_toes Sep 15
        Replying to @nd_palma @emptywheel

        I am pretty sure there is still a joint *defense* agreement. I wrote cooperation which is def incorrect

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      1. Richard Robbins‏ @rich1 Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        A question: If Trump pardoned Manafort for "any crimes he might have committed" (a la Gerald Ford), would that protect him from federal prosecution for these other crimes?pic.twitter.com/mC3ZJeNdIb

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      1. Art‏ @Art_X_ Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Does the fact that Manafort didn't seem to get a whole lot in this plea deal (other than avoiding a trial and longer sentence) suggest his proffers to Mueller did not include earth-shattering, close-the-case information?

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      1. Bruce Korb‏ @bruckorb Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Who rolled first?

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      1. lgr  🌊‏ @dottcomm1 Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Gates must be into b&d more than Manafort.

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