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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14

    Here's something I'd love to see a defense attorney to a Lawsplainer about: How powerful (and shitty) conspiracy charges are in federal law. @Popehat I've written a ton about ConFraudUs, and Lawfare did a good post. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/02/17/the-conspiracy-to-defraud-the-united-states-backbone-of-the-internet-research-agency-and-manafort-indictments/ …https://www.lawfareblog.com/about-russia-indictment-robert-muellers-legal-theory-and-where-it-takes-him-next …

    6:31 PM - 14 Sep 2018
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      1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14

        But folks watching need to understand how powerful conspiracy is. Cause even Rudy G seems to be missing that.

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      2. Derek Leo‏ @derekmke Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @Popehat

        I’m surprised we haven’t seen a movement among certain legal conservatives to discredit the idea of ConFraudUs. You can easily mock up some talking points about how “it’s silly to criminalize conspiring to make it harder for gov’t to fulfill its functions.”

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14
        Replying to @derekmke @Popehat

        That's effectively what purpose the Concord defense is serving.

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      4. Derek Leo‏ @derekmke Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @Popehat

        Derek Leo Retweeted Byron York

        Sorry I spoke too soonhttps://twitter.com/byronyork/status/1040769377476456449?s=21 …

        Derek Leo added,

        Byron YorkVerified account @ByronYork
        Really, what's with Mueller and this 'conspiracy against the United States' thing? Has nice, treason-y sound. But is there such an offense? Law Mueller cites isn't called that. Nexis search of NYT/WP finds few pre-Trump mentions, mostly referring to foreigners, terror plots. pic.twitter.com/BVuYBqphOe
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      2. breigh jerome‏ @leorajo82 Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I muted @Popehat because he couldn’t stop Tweeting lame Tomi Lehrenwhocares memes. Forgetting that, @emptywheel you are a better lawyer than most lawyers I know. Thanks for everything you do

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      3. Carlton Duty Jr.‏ @CraigMBA Sep 14
        Replying to @leorajo82 @emptywheel @Popehat

        I though those were the only funny ones. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      4. breigh jerome‏ @leorajo82 Sep 14
        Replying to @CraigMBA @emptywheel @Popehat

        Sense of humor bar was low, then older man obsessively fixating on younger woman fatigue set in, at least for me

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      5. Carlton Duty Jr.‏ @CraigMBA Sep 14
        Replying to @leorajo82 @emptywheel @Popehat

        The faux outrage of the picture did it for me. I blocked her a long time ago so whatever. I lold

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      6. breigh jerome‏ @leorajo82 Sep 14
        Replying to @CraigMBA @emptywheel @Popehat

        She sucks. and it’s a bummer to see great minds get fixated on stupid shit like her. @Popehat stopped existing & just obsessed over that pic. Having said that, *I* am done acknowledging her, and hopefully Popehat has too.

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      7. VeryHiddenGeniusHat‏ @Popehat Sep 14
        Replying to @leorajo82 @CraigMBA @emptywheel

        Let me help you with this ongoing dilemma.

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      1. kirk murphy‏ @kirkmurphy Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @Popehat

        If @CLDC’s Lauren Regan is available I’d sure love to read about Federal use of conspiracy statues to crush non-violent dissent.

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      1. James Silver‏ @JimLSilver Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @Popehat

        "But of course, not Russians, naturally. What would the Russians be doing on United States of America island......with so many animosities and hatreds between these two countries?"

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      1. Namaste, my ass...‏ @karma_kat108 Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @Popehat

        Thank you for this informative post. 371 is now my favorite number!

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      1. Abogado374‏ @6495hf Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @Popehat

        #ConFraudUS!

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