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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. McDeere‏ @McDeereUSA Sep 14

      One way we’re going to know if Manafort has anything on Trump is by Trump’s next moves. Because if he’s really got something on him, Trump will absolutely pardon him right now and fire Rosenstein. He won’t care about the supposed political blowback.

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    2. McDeere‏ @McDeereUSA Sep 14

      And yes, I know the theory that a pardon would be futile. But does Trump? I mean, even if he was getting advice that it might be futile (along lines of what @emptywheel or @jedshug argue), what makes us think he’d listen?

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    3. Dan Lenski‏ @moxfyre Sep 14
      Replying to @McDeereUSA @emptywheel @jedshug

      A good point… but Mueller seems to have been pretty methodical about making it difficult for Trump to kill his whole case with one or two actions (pardons, firings). I expect Mueller has gamed out the possibility Trump will pardon Manafort and fire Rosenstein at this juncture..

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    4. McDeere‏ @McDeereUSA Sep 14
      Replying to @moxfyre @emptywheel @jedshug

      He has. But that doesn’t mean Trump understands that or takes it seriously.

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    5. Dan Lenski‏ @moxfyre Sep 14
      Replying to @McDeereUSA @emptywheel @jedshug

      The likely outcome, I suppose, would be that Trump lashes out reflexively and destructively, AND that Mueller is well-prepared to counter it. Even more turbulent times lie ahead. 😓

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    6. Jed Shugerman Vote 11/6‏ @jedshug Sep 14
      Replying to @moxfyre @McDeereUSA @emptywheel

      I disagree, @McDeereUSA. As @emptywheel notes, Trump needs pro help with the legal steps to pardon AND stop civil forfeiture AND provide protection for his family. And no WH counsel is going to provide that help. And Trump has another calculus... 1/

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    7. Jed Shugerman Vote 11/6‏ @jedshug Sep 14
      Replying to @jedshug @moxfyre and

      2/ What Marcy said. But more practically, once Manafort spoke to Mueller’s team to get a deal, a pardon cannot unring that bell. He can be called as a witness with immunity for telling truth, or perjury for contradicting. You can’t pardon away future perjury charges.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14
      Replying to @jedshug @moxfyre @McDeereUSA

      A more interesting question might be to consider what it would take for Manafort to pursue what appears to US to be a really shitty deal. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/09/14/the-objection-that-made-muellers-case/ … Mueller scared the shit out of Manafort to get this plea.

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        2. Jed Shugerman Vote 11/6‏ @jedshug Sep 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @moxfyre @McDeereUSA

          I’m not sure it’s a bad deal for Manafort. You wrote: “unless he gets a downward departure for significant cooperation, he’ll do ten years.” But a sterling letter from Mueller, if Manafort has the goods, could knock it to 5 or fewer.

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        3. McDeere‏ @McDeereUSA Sep 14
          Replying to @jedshug @emptywheel @moxfyre

          Plus keep in mind judges are not bound by the terms of plea agreements.

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        4. HeatChalk‏ @nowhitechalk Sep 16
          Replying to @McDeereUSA @jedshug and

          No but they are bound by sentencing guidelines.

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        5. McDeere‏ @McDeereUSA Sep 16
          Replying to @nowhitechalk @jedshug and

          No, they’re not. Variances and departures above and below guidelines happen all the time. They just have to provide reasons.

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        6. HeatChalk‏ @nowhitechalk Sep 16
          Replying to @McDeereUSA @jedshug and

          For national security-related crimes?

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        7. McDeere‏ @McDeereUSA Sep 16
          Replying to @nowhitechalk @jedshug and

          I mean, those are rare to begin with. But ultimately the sentence is for the judge to determine.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 16
          Replying to @McDeereUSA @nowhitechalk and

          FWIW, I don't think Mueller believes Manafort will get a downward departure. But they got Friday's testimony and that's what they needed.

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        9. Jed Shugerman Vote 11/6‏ @jedshug Sep 16
          Replying to @emptywheel @McDeereUSA and

          FWIW, a journalist who was at the courthouse on Friday told me that Manafort arrived just before 11am, so unlikely he was Queen-for-an-early-morning. Maybe they brought him before a judge on Thursday, used a sworn affidavit sometime that week. And that’d be significant enough

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        1. Vincent Bellows Sr‏ @armysfcvet Sep 15
          Replying to @emptywheel @CaseyHinds and

          It was sooooo bad after the deal a company had to be called it up to hose down the room because Mueller Scared the Shot out of Manafort!

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        1. HeatChalk‏ @nowhitechalk Sep 16
          Replying to @emptywheel @jedshug and

          Incredibly helpful analysis here.

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        1. Joe Thompson‏ @JoeThompsonIT Sep 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @jedshug @moxfyre

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