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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14

    emptywheel Retweeted Aaron Maté

    Someone explain to Bozo the Clown that propaganda is sometimes deliberately false.https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1040702799812718592 …

    emptywheel added,

    Aaron MatéVerified account @aaronjmate
    Replying to @aaronjmate @emptywheel and 2 others
    Many more details in Mueller's superseding indictment -- part of the public record -- detail exactly how Manafort pushed a pro-West, anti-Russia agenda -- as everyone who is familiar w/ the actual facts, not caught up in proving a conspiracy theory, knows: https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1040623464850378754?s=21 …
    1:46 PM - 14 Sep 2018
    • 32 Retweets
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    • Patricia Ann Kopp 🍩 🗳📚💯❗️ 💚 PandoraSpocks 💚 Jude Nelson Scott Radimer Nicholas Fredland John Winthrop Bates Liz Dixon#resistance Are you ready to vote? Aloysius Asuquo
    53 replies 32 retweets 318 likes
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      2. Aaron Collom‏ @AaronCollom Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Who knew "this will be easier if we convince people we are pro-west" would have the double bonus of some ass hat years later going "see they tried to convince people they were pro west, so they were pro west" as a defense against actions that clearly signal the opposite.

        4 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 14
        Replying to @AaronCollom

        Only with Bozo the Clown and sleazy Congressmen tho. It's transparently obvious to other people.

        5 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      4. Director of Troll-Ops, FSB‏ @VladDoskifukski Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @AaronCollom

        Still talking shit, even when you have been owned and put in a jar, amazing.

        0 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Aaron Maté‏Verified account @aaronjmate Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Here, via Mueller, are 2013 emails from Manafort (PJM) to Yanacovych ("President VFY") & others detailing PJM's strategy to promote Ukrainian alignment w/ West/EU & away from Russia. Are you saying these internal emails are "propaganda"? Did Manafort foresee Mueller probe? 🤔🤡pic.twitter.com/mfXeOdXXS5

        22 replies 65 retweets 180 likes
      3. Alex Scherer‏ @lgbral Sep 14
        Replying to @aaronjmate @emptywheel

        Is the theory that Manafort was anticipating an investigation and wanted to do some sort of preemptive obfuscation by doing lobbying against Russia’s interest? And he is going to flip? And you are a clown if you don’t see/believe it?

        7 replies 6 retweets 52 likes
      4. Brian Rubenstein‏ @irwinhandleman Sep 14
        Replying to @lgbral @aaronjmate @emptywheel

        is the theory that manafort was anti-russian? cause that’s insane

        8 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      5. Ed Boon‏ @NotEdBoon Sep 14
        Replying to @irwinhandleman @lgbral and

        No the theory is that Manafort was a corrupt asshole that took money from everyone who offered it to him, and that the Russia conspiracy nonsense is unrelated to his corruption and the corruption of Tony Podesta and every other corrupt asshole in DC who takes money

        2 replies 9 retweets 57 likes
      6. Figo Lambo‏ @figolambo Sep 14
        Replying to @NotEdBoon @irwinhandleman and

        He worked for Yanukovych and his party. Read up on what happened. Can you see why a *politician* would want to shift away (or be seen as shifting away) from Russia? It’s not a conspiracy, it’s Politics 101. @aaronjmate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Background_to_removal …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Wokest‏ @FratboyMarxist Sep 14
        Replying to @figolambo @NotEdBoon and

        HE LOBBIED YAKUNOVICH TO JOIN THE EU!!! He wasn’t “pro-Yakunovich” he was PRO WEST! Such stupidity and misreading of the most BASIC FACTS OF THE CONFLICT

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
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      2. GEOTRILL 🌐 🔥‏ @delmoi Sep 15
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Aren't you the person who got caught up in believing a 'source' of yours was actually a Russian asset who turned out just to be a grifter?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 15
        Replying to @delmoi

        Fascinating portrayal of it. Where did that come from?

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Jay Robertson‏ @IJefTomI Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @zatchry

        It is entertaining when propaganda becomes something that people source to. It's akin to putting WikiLeaks in a bibliography.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      4. Jay Robertson‏ @IJefTomI Sep 14
        Replying to @pebbleqrx3 @emptywheel

        Even if we assume that everything leaked was genuine (which I most certainly do not), it was propaganda if because one and only one candidate got Wikileak'd on.

        9 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Progressive Blacksmith (aka Proggy B 😎… or Kaveh)‏ @ProgBlacksmith1 Sep 15
        Replying to @IJefTomI @pebbleqrx3 @emptywheel

        And yet, if Trump got his emails leaked, you’d be singing praise for Wikileaks right now and you know it. So just admit that you’re a partisan loyalist to one party, and since that candidate got exposed, you’re just bitter about it. Try that next time.

        2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
      6. Progressive Blacksmith (aka Proggy B 😎… or Kaveh)‏ @ProgBlacksmith1 Sep 15
        Replying to @ProgBlacksmith1 @IJefTomI and

        By the way, learn the definition of propaganda, because it’s not even close to how you chose to randomly define it. Furthermore, Wikileaks released information that was given to them. They didn’t steal anything, they just published what was given to them.

        1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
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      2. Sir Humphrey‏ @bdquinn Sep 14
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Someone trying to argue that Yanukovych was really the pro-Western candidate is... something.

        3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe Sep 14
        Replying to @bdquinn @emptywheel

        Someone trying to argue that hiring a US lobbyist to build ties with US and EU, which Kremlin opposed, was a pro-Kremlin move is something as well.

        0 replies 0 retweets 20 likes
      4. End of conversation

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