The entire term "TSP" is a phrase invented just for this purpose, so that people could talk about the subset of a larger surveillance program they were willing to talk about.
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Replying to @emptywheel
The question both verbally and in writing specified an NSA surveillance program, while the email specified a question about collection of people inside the US. (NSA's mission is to collect on targets outside the US) Which is why I don't understand what you mean by lying.
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Replying to @MiekeEoyang
Again, even the officially released IG Report makes it clear they were collecting some content domestically. And they were selecting WHOM to collect on with the domestic collection he rubber stamped retroactively in Klayman.
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Replying to @emptywheel @MiekeEoyang
And you're forgetting how the meaning of "collecting on" has radically changed since 2001.
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Mieke Ooooooooyang 🎃 Retweeted David Lat
Yes, but I'm legit puzzled by what you mean by lying. Did you see this
@DavidLat thread explaining:https://twitter.com/DavidLat/status/1038195699513520129 …Mieke Ooooooooyang 🎃 added,
David LatVerified account @DavidLatTHREAD. "Perjury" claims against Judge Brett Kavanaugh re: NSA surveillance. 1. I've done long threads on claims that Kavanaugh "perjured" himself re: Pryor &#Memogate. This thread will be shorter.#SCOTUS#KavanaghHearing#KavanaughConfirmationHearingsShow this thread2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @MiekeEoyang @DavidLat
Yes. I reported the significance of that memo before this came out. I stand by it. Kavanaugh is telling the same lie Gonzales told, and everyone involved is playing games w/how BOTH torture and warrantless wiretapping were approved.
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Replying to @emptywheel @DavidLat
In Gonzales' case, he was personally involved with warrantless wiretapping & trying to strong arm Ashcroft. But Kavanaugh's in a different position. What do you mean by "lie" as applied to Kavanaugh? He's not in the same position as Gonzales.
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Replying to @MiekeEoyang @DavidLat
I think when I said "(it's less substantive for him, but still)" I made that point in the very first tweet in this thread. It's still using the same bullshit tactic. It remains bullshit, just not as significantly important as it was for Gonzales.
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Replying to @emptywheel @DavidLat
Right, but reporters are writing that Kavanaugh lied about it, which is inaccurate. Based on what we know in the public record, he did not knowingly make a materially false statement in his testimony about the NSA surveillance program.
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When *you* say he lied, but what you mean is that he's parsing finely to avoid having to answer for things others did in the Bush Administration about which he would have approved & defended ex post you give cover to people claiming a violation of 18 USC 1001.
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No. I'm saying that his answers IN THE PAST were that game and his answers NOW are therefore lies.
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