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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 10

      BC USG wrongly accused Mariia Butina of being a serial honey pot, people are interested in whether she's overcharged. I've written 3 posts comparing her charging w/Manaforts. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/08/30/spy-versus-spy-the-two-alleged-agents-of-foreign-powers-sitting-in-the-alexandria-jail-part-one-paulie/ … https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/09/03/spy-versus-spy-the-two-alleged-agents-of-foreign-powers-sitting-in-the-alexandria-jail-part-two-mariia/ … https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/09/08/is-a-tie-with-vladimir-putin-what-makes-mariia-butina-more-of-a-spy-than-paul-manafort/ …

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 10

      Short story: FBI wasn't sure whether they were going to charge Butina w/FARA violation (what Manafort faces in DC this month) or 18 USC 951 (spying). They saw stuff in a search that made them decide to charge her w/section 951.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 10

      But DOJ maintains that they can charge conduct that would otherwise be FARA under section 951, meaning they can treat influence operations like Butina's as spying.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 10

      Another perhaps more interesting questions is whether the stuff Manafort is suspected of having done during the election amounts to section 951. Anyway, now that Mueller is putting real teeth into FARA, it will make boundary bt FARA and 951 more interesting.

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    5. connie‏ @mewmewmew13 Sep 10
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      Could you say this in non-wonk please?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Sep 10
      Replying to @mewmewmew13

      Sure. There's a charge, 951, which the US uses to charge garden variety spying for foreign countries. That's what Butina got charged with, even though her known actions amount to undisclosed lobbying for a foreign entity, which is what FARA prohibits.

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        1.  🍄Crisis Actor 🍄 Comrade Covfefe‏ @ComradCovfefe45 Sep 10
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          Thanks.

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        1. connie‏ @mewmewmew13 Sep 10
          Replying to @emptywheel

          TY 🖐🏽😉

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